Bug 94841 - Ditching xf86-video-amdgpu in favor of xf86-video-modesetting?
Summary: Ditching xf86-video-amdgpu in favor of xf86-video-modesetting?
Status: RESOLVED NOTABUG
Alias: None
Product: xorg
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Driver/AMDgpu (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: All All
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Assignee: xf86-video-ati maintainers
QA Contact: Xorg Project Team
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Reported: 2016-04-06 12:18 UTC by N. W.
Modified: 2016-04-07 18:29 UTC (History)
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Description N. W. 2016-04-06 12:18:22 UTC
Hello,

according to the discussion in the following Phoronix forum thread:

https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/863332-intel-s-unreleased-3-0-x-org-driver-gets-more-fixes-for-dri3-present

the generic xf86-video-modesetting DDX driver included in xorg-server seems to be better than most vendor specific xf86-video- drivers.

I am wondering:

Then why not ditch xf86-video-amdgpu in favor of xf86-video-modesetting?

Regards
Comment 1 Alex Deucher 2016-04-06 14:50:21 UTC
Please don't file bug for questions.  We could eventually move to -modesetting once all the features from -amdgpu get ported to -modesetting and we have a way to support the amd pro stack.
Comment 2 N. W. 2016-04-07 17:14:15 UTC
(In reply to Alex Deucher from comment #1)
> Please don't file bug for questions.

Why not? Where else should this be discussed?

Yes, it could have been posted on the mailing list, but:

1. Unlike for Intel, where they have two separate mailing lists, one for bugs and for discussion, for AMD there is just one combined mailing list which is used for bugs and for discussion. So the posts in this "bug report" end up on the same mailing list anyway...

2. As far as I know Bugzilla is also for feature requests, hence this one simply could have been downgraded to "enhancement".

3. I hate posting directly to mailing lists. Mailing lists are very inconvenient and so yesterday (outdated).

4. I doubt posting on any official AMD forum would have gotten your attention...(?)

> We could eventually move to
> -modesetting once all the features from -amdgpu get ported to -modesetting
> and we have a way to support the amd pro stack.

Is this something that you are planning to do? I mean porting all the features from xf86-video-amdgpu to xf86-video-modesetting?

Or are you merely hinting at the possibility that someone could do it, in which case you would think about moving to x86-video-modesetting?

Regards
Comment 3 John Bridgman 2016-04-07 17:39:15 UTC
>>Yes, it could have been posted on the mailing list, but:

1. Unlike for Intel, where they have two separate mailing lists, one for bugs and for discussion, for AMD there is just one combined mailing list which is used for bugs and for discussion. So the posts in this "bug report" end up on the same mailing list anyway...

Yes, but if you post to the mailing list you get threaded discussions, automatic quoting of previous text etc... and you aren't filing a bug ticket for something that obviously isn't a bug.

>>3. I hate posting directly to mailing lists. Mailing lists are very inconvenient and so yesterday (outdated).

Whereas bug tracking systems are so modern and 21st century ??? 

>>4. I doubt posting on any official AMD forum would have gotten your attention...(?)

Hey, here's an idea... the topic was already being discussed on the Phoronix forum, which you know the devs visit already... how about discussing it there and not spamming the bug tracker ?
Comment 4 N. W. 2016-04-07 18:05:07 UTC
(In reply to John Bridgman from comment #3)> 
> Whereas bug tracking systems are so modern and 21st century ??? 

Yes, at least the bug tracking system had a search and is categorized and allows people to easily follow up on topics, unlike the clumsy mailing list archive over there:

https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-driver-ati/

Furthermore, having an account at bugs.freedesktop.org allows me to post everywhere. Using a mailing list I would probably need to subscribe to every single mailing list before being able to post anywhere.

> Hey, here's an idea... the topic was already being discussed on the Phoronix
> forum, which you know the devs visit already... how about discussing it
> there and not spamming the bug tracker ?

Well I didn't see you or Alex taking part in the discussion on that Phoronix forum thread.

Regards
Comment 5 Alex Deucher 2016-04-07 18:29:09 UTC
This is not a discussion forum.  If you want to discuss this further please follow up on an appropriate forum.


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