Bug 33684 - autocompletion does not longer work by pressing TAB
Summary: autocompletion does not longer work by pressing TAB
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Spreadsheet (show other bugs)
Version: 3.5.5.3 release
Hardware: All Mac OS X (All)
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Assignee: Not Assigned
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Reported: 2011-01-29 03:12 UTC by Christoph Thielecke
Modified: 2014-11-03 04:46 UTC (History)
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Description Christoph Thielecke 2011-01-29 03:12:36 UTC
The autocompletion does not longer work in cells by pressing tab on offer.

How to get the bug:

- enter the text in the following cells:
A1: WG1
A2: WG2
A3: WG3

- now enter 'W' into A4, you will get 'W[mark]G1[endmark]' (text between mark  and endmark is inverted)

- now press tab key

What happens:
text will be set to WG1 and cell B4 will be selected

What should happen:
text will changed to 'W[mark]G2[endmark]' and the cell A4 is still the active cell. You can toggle to other possiblities (like WG3) too.

OOo 3.2.0 is working fine.
Comment 1 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2011-02-05 05:05:25 UTC
[Reproducible] with "LibreOffice 3.3.0 RC4 - WIN7  Home Premium (64bit) German UI  [OOO330m19 (build 6 / tag 3.3.0.4)]". Now to other autofill contents can be scrolled with <ctl>+<tab>.

German Help says TAB will scroll, also English Help for AutoInput does not match with actual behaviour.

In OOo3.4-dev still TAB is used for scrolling to next possible autofill contents.

I believe it will be the same for all OS.

Bug or feature?
Wrong Help or Wrong behaviour?

WIKIHELP <http://help.libreoffice.org/Calc/AutoInput>
also does not match with actual behaviour
Comment 2 Kohei Yoshida (inactive) 2011-02-07 18:13:57 UTC
This is a feature, and the help needs updating for this.
Comment 3 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2011-02-07 22:28:16 UTC
I filed
Bug 34019 - WIKIHELP does not match with actual behavior for AutoInput
and close this issue due to Comment 2
Comment 4 Christoph Thielecke 2011-02-07 23:21:27 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> This is a feature, and the help needs updating for this.
No, its a bug.
Comment 5 Christoph Thielecke 2011-02-07 23:21:57 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> This is a feature, and the help needs updating for this.
No, its a bug.
Comment 6 Don't use this account, use tml@iki.fi 2011-02-08 00:02:47 UTC
My mother says it is a feature, so there!
Comment 7 Christoph Thielecke 2011-02-08 00:05:37 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)
> My mother says it is a feature, so there!
My girlfried got the big hate and says this is a bug that its changed, so it should be changed. The user should be able to change the default behavior but you never should change the default behavior, that causes a lot of trouble. I got that problem often in history and its NOT surprising for the users.
Comment 8 Don't use this account, use tml@iki.fi 2011-02-08 00:09:29 UTC
We believe in Change.
Comment 9 Christoph Thielecke 2011-02-08 00:20:54 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> We believe in Change.
Never change a good working thing. To change a default behavior is a bad thing. User which want to want to change it can do it. Ask the users outside... the answer is: no new default behavior.
Comment 10 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2011-02-08 00:28:40 UTC
Oracle bones might hit mother's intuition ;-)

@Christoph Thieleck:
May be you should improve your knowledge concerning UI design for a software that has to work under various OS with common UI without conflicts with default OS UI shortcuts. That might help you to understand the reasons for such changes.

Me and my fingers also dislike those lots of additional new <cntrl> keys for various shortcuts, but as long nobody has a better solution considering a.m. basic conditions, we will have to live with them.
Comment 11 GerardF 2011-02-09 02:33:25 UTC
@ Kohei
Could this be added in OpenOffice Legacy key binding ?
Comment 12 Kohei Yoshida (inactive) 2011-02-09 05:24:54 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> @ Kohei
> Could this be added in OpenOffice Legacy key binding ?

I'm afraid not, as this one is unfortunately hard-coded.
Comment 13 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2011-02-17 22:31:43 UTC
What shell we do with this issue? I don't see any simple solution.

The lots of 3-key combinations we currently have are not very user friendly, but may be the only way to get a more or less consistent UI for all OS.

May be we need some "shortkey.cfg" (or .oxt) that will allow to define all shortcuts by user, and may be predefined files available via download that will allow to install a "use MSWORD4.5 shortcuts" easily?
Comment 14 Kohei Yoshida (inactive) 2011-02-18 07:17:07 UTC
Unfortunately the normal shortcut key scheme doesn't apply in this case, because these key inputs are handled as direct key input i.e. like typing 'a', 'b', 'c, etc into a cell, and you can't assign a shortcut key to direct key inputs.

Of course it's not impossible to make this configurable, but it may create more problems and makes the code less maintainable (the code that handles direct key inputs is very fragile).  And quite frankly I don't know if it's worth the risk.

But I guess we can't close this bug since if we do, it will get re-opened anyway. ;-)  So, let's leave this open for now, but set it to lower priority.
Comment 15 Kohei Yoshida (inactive) 2011-02-18 08:17:55 UTC
I'll keep this bug for the time being.
Comment 16 Christoph Thielecke 2011-04-22 07:52:52 UTC
Its still not fixed in libreoffice 3.3.2.
Comment 17 Kohei Yoshida (inactive) 2011-04-22 07:57:42 UTC
I don't want to be the assignee.
Comment 18 Midiar 2011-07-03 00:47:22 UTC
Using LibO_3.4.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US, neither Tab nor ctrl+Tab lets me scroll through the alternatives. (I also tried the other ctrl/option/cmd+Tab combinations I could come up with, to no avail.) I started noticing this changed behaviour in 3.4.0, I think.

The help also mentioned cmd+D to get a list of all the alternatives. That was new to me, but it didn't work anyway.

So is this a bug, or have I overlooked something really obvious?
Comment 19 Rudolf Kollien 2011-07-08 06:51:16 UTC
Same to me on Mac OS X, German Translation. Neither Ctrl-Tab, nor any other combination works. The CMD-D as mentioned above doesn't work, too. It's frustrating that a) the default behavior was changed and b) there is no working alternative. So we still have to continue using OOo on our Macs. And even on the Linux and Win-Desktops, as we can't force our users to use different key combinations on different platforms. Very sadly that one little thing makes the biggest trouble. But being unable to rotate to the AutoInput makes the Calc nearly unusable for us.
Comment 20 Rudolf Kollien 2011-07-08 06:53:57 UTC
Forgot to say: we use LibreOffice 3.4.0 on Intel Mac.
Comment 21 miles 2012-07-21 12:08:38 UTC
This is still present, even in 360RC2 and, Kohei, it is definitely a bug: on OSX you cannot browse through suggestions nor move to another, next suggestion. It is a broken feature, even if its keyboard shortcut was changed in beetween for other OS where it might work.

AutoInput is used a lot in spreadsheet use cases, i.e. in companies and NGO which might have a negative impact on perception of LO as a truly full-featured office suite, as well as this makes a function in OSX unaccessible, which makes this feature non-existing.

So, to ask clearly: what is the correct shortcut for all OS:
- accessing the list of all possible autoformat suggestions
- jumping to the next autoformat suggestion

This is why I chenged it from enhancement to a normal priority bug. Slovenian enterprise users are crying to get this back working as before.

Thanks, m.
Comment 22 Rudolf Kollien 2012-07-23 06:04:04 UTC
After more than 18 months nothing changed. 
This bug is the reason, why we and many others still run on OOo.
Comment 23 ralf 2014-06-25 12:33:20 UTC
Any updates?
Comment 24 oscar valenzuela 2014-10-26 19:10:37 UTC
Confirmed in LibreOffice (Dev) 4.4.0 alpha1 under Mac OS X 10.10 (Yosemite) x86-64
Comment 25 Joel Madero 2014-11-03 04:46:19 UTC
Status should be NEW not REOPENED.


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