Bug 67973 - FORMATTING: change option name from "Format" to "Page Number Format"
Summary: FORMATTING: change option name from "Format" to "Page Number Format"
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version: 4.0.4.2 release
Hardware: Other All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Reported: 2013-08-10 07:12 UTC by bugquestcontri
Modified: 2014-11-18 20:34 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Attachments
Screenshot to illustrate enhancement request (21.55 KB, image/png)
2013-08-10 07:12 UTC, bugquestcontri
Details
Page dialog Format what? Page numbering... (20.51 KB, image/png)
2014-11-18 19:30 UTC, V Stuart Foote
Details

Description bugquestcontri 2013-08-10 07:12:36 UTC
Created attachment 83916 [details]
Screenshot to illustrate enhancement request

Problem description: 

When someone needs to change the page number format it is - at least for a LibO beginner - a bit difficult to recognize "Format" as "Page Number Format" on the Page Style / Page tab.

Replace the word "Format" (see attachment) by "Page Number Format".

Background
I came across this matter when I answered

http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/21286/change-page-numbering-in-the-content-field/?answer=21302#post-id-21302

It Is only a minor enhancement but could be very important for beginners.
Operating System: All
Version: 4.0.4.2 release
Comment 1 James 2013-08-10 16:22:10 UTC
Great request, absolutely agree. Easy to fix and big improvement of usability.

Setting to NEW.
Comment 2 V Stuart Foote 2013-08-11 13:45:45 UTC
Since it is located in the Layout settings area of the Format --> Page --> Page tab, using "Number Format" or "Numbering" would be more informative.

But including Page in its label seems redundant. Also would not fit the panel especially well.

In similar vein, would page numbering format be a good Sidebar Content Panel addition to the Writer Properties deck?
Comment 3 bugquestcontri 2013-08-18 14:35:55 UTC
I cannot comment on the Sidebar Control Panel because I have not used it yet. Will do soon as I just installed 4.1.0 portable.

As for "Number Format" vs "Page Number Format", I can see your logic. But you are an expert, I my concern are beginners. Sometimes a bit of redundancy can create a lot of help. Background: I am afraid that people click the Page tab without having clearly in mind that it is the page tab because they are searching (= being focused in their mind to) a page number format setting.
Comment 4 bugquestcontri 2014-06-20 13:48:06 UTC
Moved in the meantime to 4.2.4.2 and use sidebar heavily. Great feature is this sidebar.

Adding the page number format to the sidebar. Don't really think it is needed there.
Comment 5 Timur 2014-11-18 19:11:23 UTC
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #2)
> Since it is located in the Layout settings area of the Format --> Page -->
> Page tab, using "Number Format" or "Numbering" would be more informative.
> 
> But including Page in its label seems redundant. Also would not fit the
> panel especially well.
>
> In similar vein, would page numbering format be a good Sidebar Content Panel
> addition to the Writer Properties deck?

I agree with all you wrote. Just to find someone to do it :)
Comment 6 V Stuart Foote 2014-11-18 19:30:24 UTC
Created attachment 109690 [details]
Page dialog Format what? Page numbering...

@Jay, @Kendy, @Adolpho, *,

As we press on with Toolbar and Menu UI cleanup, perhaps start looking at UI labeling in the dialogs.  Here is a good example...

Stuart
Comment 7 Jay Philips 2014-11-18 20:34:35 UTC
I've thought to report this multiple times, including the time i was working on the sidebar page tab (bug 83830), but alas never got around to doing it :D.

I've thought that 'Page Numbers' would be a good one to use, as it goes well with 'Page Layout' above it. 'Number Format' would also be an improvement, but dont think 'Numbering' is good because we use that for numbering lists.

I found it strange that it was listed under the 'Layout Settings' section when it has nothing to do with the actual position/layout of the numbers on the page. If anything, i'd assume it deserves its own section heading of 'Page Numbers' and then 'Format' or 'Style' as its label. It is important enough to have its own section IMHO, and users shouldnt have difficulties find it.


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