Bug 88148 - Image caption management forces to insert a category and numbering even if you do not need it
Summary: Image caption management forces to insert a category and numbering even if yo...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: ux-advise (show other bugs)
Version: 4.4.0.1 rc
Hardware: All All
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Reported: 2015-01-07 09:55 UTC by Andy
Modified: 2015-01-14 22:47 UTC (History)
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Description Andy 2015-01-07 09:55:49 UTC 
Here we go:

Open a writer doc, insert any image. In the context menu, choose "insert caption"

The "category" list allows to add a repeating word automatically, like "table" etc.; there is also the item <none> which is needed when you want to create a caption with no repeating word or numbering.

The problem n. 1 is, if you choose the latter option, the "OK" button is deactivated and you actually cannot insert the caption without a repeating starting word.

Problem n.2 is as follows: in the dialog window, open the category list and choose "none": the OK button is greyed out. Then reopen the list and choose any other category. After this, if you try to choose "none" again, this is impossible, and the category reverts to the last one right after you try and fail to select none with the mouse.

Problem n.3 is that even if it would be possible to actually select <none> in the category list, there is no "none" item in the "numbering" list, so it appears that avoinding a numbering would be impossible all the same

I know that the rule is "one problem, one bug report", but here the issues are so closely related that filing 3 distinct reports seemed inappropriate.

Workaround: you can leave the default category, insert the caption with the unwanted word at the beginning, and then manually delete the word and the numbering in each caption for each picture if you do not want them. This is of course a burdensome process. 
Note that the "categorized" captions are commonplace in scientific publications, but they are almost never used in other kind of documents (in a magazine or newsletter for example, most of the times captions are not categorized nor numbered).
Comment 1 Robinson Tryon (qubit) 2015-01-14 22:47:15 UTC 
TESTING with LO 4.4.0.2 + Ubuntu 14.04

(In reply to Andy from comment #0)
> Here we go:
> 
> Open a writer doc, insert any image. In the context menu, choose "insert
> caption"

It's just "Caption" for me in 4.4.0.2.

> The "category" list allows to add a repeating word automatically, like
> "table" etc.; there is also the item <none> which is needed when you want to
> create a caption with no repeating word or numbering.
> 
> The problem n. 1 is, if you choose the latter option, the "OK" button is
> deactivated and you actually cannot insert the caption without a repeating
> starting word.

CONFIRMED
Status -> NEW
Hardware -> (generalize)

> 
> Problem n.2 is as follows: in the dialog window, open the category list and
> choose "none": the OK button is greyed out. Then reopen the list and choose
> any other category. After this, if you try to choose "none" again, this is
> impossible, and the category reverts to the last one right after you try and
> fail to select none with the mouse.

CONFIRMED as well

> 
> Problem n.3 is that even if it would be possible to actually select <none>
> in the category list, there is no "none" item in the "numbering" list, so it
> appears that avoinding a numbering would be impossible all the same
> 

CONFIRMED as well

> I know that the rule is "one problem, one bug report", but here the issues
> are so closely related that filing 3 distinct reports seemed inappropriate.
> 
> Workaround: you can leave the default category, insert the caption with the
> unwanted word at the beginning, and then manually delete the word and the
> numbering in each caption for each picture if you do not want them. This is
> of course a burdensome process. 
> Note that the "categorized" captions are commonplace in scientific
> publications, but they are almost never used in other kind of documents (in
> a magazine or newsletter for example, most of the times captions are not
> categorized nor numbered).

Yep -- sounds like a reasonable concern. Handing this the UX folks for their input on what types of captioning should be available.
Component -> ux-advise

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