Bug 16888

Summary: Ati Mobility Radeon 3650
Product: xorg Reporter: BogDan Vatra <bogdan>
Component: Driver/RadeonAssignee: xf86-video-ati maintainers <xorg-driver-ati>
Status: RESOLVED NOTOURBUG QA Contact: Xorg Project Team <xorg-team>
Severity: major    
Priority: medium CC: anyone, bogdan, bryce
Version: unspecified   
Hardware: Other   
OS: All   
Whiteboard:
i915 platform: i915 features:
Attachments:
Description Flags
Radeon Xorg.0.log
none
radeon xorg.conf
none
Xorg console output
none
Debian sid/experimental Xorg.0.log
none
Debian sid/experimental xorg.conf
none
Debian sid/experimental xorg-console.out
none
Xorg.0.log with 2gb mem
none
Xorg.0.log (1024x768 screen res) radeon driver compiled from git
none
Xorg.0.log file, on a Asus M50SA
none
Xorg.0.log file, on a Asus M50SA none

Description BogDan Vatra 2008-07-29 05:59:02 UTC
Hi,

I try to use this card with debian sid/experimental but I get only o gray screen with some horizontal lines on the left side. 

My laptop is a asus M70Sa (http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=23&l3=524&l4=42&model=2196&modelmenu=2)

With fglrx is working but is slow on kde4. 

Thanks.
Comment 1 Egbert Eich 2008-07-29 06:50:53 UTC
This report is totally inconclusive, it doesn't contain a log file so we cannot even check which version of the driver you are using.
So there is nothing we can do here.
Comment 2 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-29 08:18:07 UTC
Created attachment 17963 [details]
Radeon Xorg.0.log
Comment 3 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-29 08:18:54 UTC
Sorry may bad !!!
I made another mistake I confused radeon driver with radeonHD. 
Sorry about that too. 
Comment 4 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-29 08:19:33 UTC
Created attachment 17964 [details]
radeon xorg.conf
Comment 5 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-29 08:20:10 UTC
Created attachment 17965 [details]
Xorg console output
Comment 6 Julien Cristau 2008-07-29 08:22:28 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> Hi,
> 
> I try to use this card with debian sid/experimental but I get only o gray
> screen with some horizontal lines on the left side. 

the log says ubuntu intrepid, not debian sid/experimental.
Comment 7 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-29 08:25:28 UTC
Yes I made this logs with a ubuntu livecd, if you want i'll make with debian too (but the problems and the Xorg console output are the same).
Comment 8 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-29 08:26:37 UTC
I use this (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/intrepid/alpha-3/intrepid-desktop-amd64.iso) for the logs.
Comment 9 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-29 11:23:48 UTC
Created attachment 17968 [details]
Debian sid/experimental Xorg.0.log
Comment 10 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-29 11:24:22 UTC
Created attachment 17969 [details]
Debian sid/experimental xorg.conf
Comment 11 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-29 11:24:54 UTC
Created attachment 17970 [details]
Debian sid/experimental xorg-console.out
Comment 12 Alex Deucher 2008-07-29 11:32:00 UTC
How much ram does this box have?
Comment 13 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-29 11:49:56 UTC
4 gb ram and 1gb video
Comment 14 Alex Deucher 2008-07-29 11:53:32 UTC
Does it help if you remove one stick of ram?
Comment 15 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-29 11:56:12 UTC
I can't remove my sistem is a laptop !
I don't know how !
Comment 16 Alex Deucher 2008-07-29 12:08:55 UTC
does you bios have any options for remapping memory?  Also are you on 32-bit or 64-bit?
Comment 17 Julien Cristau 2008-07-29 12:13:43 UTC
Comment on attachment 17968 [details]
Debian sid/experimental Xorg.0.log

please attach files as text/plain
Comment 18 Yannick 2008-07-29 12:46:24 UTC
The radeonhd driver in Debian experimental does not contain the code to fix the problem of bug #16263. You'll have to compile the git source (unfortunately, at the moment it does not compile but I can send you an amd64 package if you need).
I don"t know if the modifications are necessary for the M70Sa but the problem described seem like mine before the bug #16263 was corrected.

Nevertheless, the fact that the M70Sa does work with the catalyst driver and with 4Go of RAM makes me think that it does no suffer the same problem as the M51Se (described in the bug #16263).
Comment 19 Michel Dänzer 2008-07-30 00:26:12 UTC
(In reply to comment #15)
> I can't remove my sistem is a laptop !
> I don't know how !

You can limit the amount of RAM used by the Linux kernel using the mem= kernel command line option, e.g.

mem=2048M

to limit it to 2 GB.
Comment 20 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-30 03:56:54 UTC
(In reply to comment #19)
> (In reply to comment #15)
> > I can't remove my sistem is a laptop !
> > I don't know how !
> 
> You can limit the amount of RAM used by the Linux kernel using the mem= kernel
> command line option, e.g.
> 
> mem=2048M
> 
> to limit it to 2 GB.
> 

Thanks, my mem was limited to 2 gb but the driver didn't work (the same effect).
I'll attach you a new Xorg.log

If you need a rom dump please take it from https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16892 .  The same problem but with a different driver.
Comment 21 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-30 03:57:44 UTC
Created attachment 17996 [details]
Xorg.0.log with 2gb mem
Comment 22 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-30 04:03:36 UTC
(In reply to comment #18)
> The radeonhd driver in Debian experimental does not contain the code to fix the
> problem of bug #16263. You'll have to compile the git source (unfortunately, at
> the moment it does not compile but I can send you an amd64 package if you
> need).

PLEASE !!!

> I don"t know if the modifications are necessary for the M70Sa but the problem
> described seem like mine before the bug #16263 was corrected.
> 
> Nevertheless, the fact that the M70Sa does work with the catalyst driver and
> with 4Go of RAM makes me think that it does no suffer the same problem as the
> M51Se (described in the bug #16263).
> 

The fglrx driver is horrible on kde4. I only need a good 2d for kde4. 

I don't know if this will help you but my display is full HD ( 1920x1200 ).
Comment 23 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-30 04:54:49 UTC
I compile radeon driver from git and has the same effect.
I even try with 1024x176 resolution.
I
Comment 24 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-30 04:59:13 UTC
Created attachment 17998 [details]
Xorg.0.log (1024x768 screen res) radeon driver compiled from git
Comment 25 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-30 11:12:33 UTC
(In reply to comment #16)
> does you bios have any options for remapping memory?  

No.

> Also are you on 32-bit or
> 64-bit?
> 

64
Comment 26 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-30 11:16:44 UTC
(In reply to comment #17)
> (From update of attachment 17968 [details])
> please attach files as text/plain
> 

Sorry I didn't see you post (and this option) until now. 
I'll try to remember this.

Please don't hesitate to ask me for any additional information !
Comment 27 Thomas 2008-07-31 05:43:19 UTC
Created attachment 18027 [details]
Xorg.0.log file, on a Asus M50SA
Comment 28 Thomas 2008-07-31 05:48:41 UTC
Hello

I have the exact same problem, as descripted in this bugreport.

My spec:
Asus M50SA
Ubuntu 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP i686 GNU/Linux
RAM: 4 GB
Radeon HD 3650 mobility 1 GB VRAM
GIT version dated 29/7-08 of libdrm/drm/dri/mesa/radeonhd


When compiled every libdrm/drm/dri/mesa and at last radeonhd, and then reboot, I get a completely gray screen. I can hear everything loads normal, like kde 4 startup sound etc.

I attached my xorg.0.log file.

If you need more information, please write me.
Comment 29 Thomas 2008-07-31 05:52:51 UTC
Created attachment 18028 [details]
Xorg.0.log file, on a Asus M50SA

Forgot to make it text/plain :-)
Comment 30 Thomas 2008-07-31 05:57:34 UTC
Hmm seems this is for Radeon driver only. I will make a new bugreport.
Comment 31 BogDan Vatra 2008-07-31 06:20:16 UTC
(In reply to comment #30)
> Hmm seems this is for Radeon driver only. I will make a new bugreport.
> 

I already open a bug for radeonhd :
see: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16892
Comment 32 mw 2009-05-22 03:53:39 UTC
They discuss about the problems with Bugs around the HD 3650. The problem: The machine hangs / freezes with 4 GB of memory. The workaround for these bugs are the removing of 2 GB of RAM. It seems, that the memory-allocation estimation of xorg has a bug, so the card can't allocate no memory. 

Please see the following links to forums for further details. 
http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/treiber-fuer-ati-mobility-radeon-hd-3650-inst/
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1139823&highlight=3650
and many others
Logs are attached to posts.


Thank you
Comment 33 Alex Deucher 2009-05-22 07:55:36 UTC
(In reply to comment #32)
> They discuss about the problems with Bugs around the HD 3650. The problem: The
> machine hangs / freezes with 4 GB of memory. The workaround for these bugs are
> the removing of 2 GB of RAM. It seems, that the memory-allocation estimation of
> xorg has a bug, so the card can't allocate no memory. 

This is an issue with the mtrr setup in the bios that needs to be fixed by the kernel:
http://lists.opensuse.org/radeonhd/2009-05/msg00070.html
Comment 34 Alex Deucher 2009-06-11 09:56:07 UTC
*** Bug 18163 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 35 Alex Deucher 2009-10-21 13:47:30 UTC
kernel mtrr issue.

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