Bug 35697

Was it only the kernel that you updated?  E.g., does just booting an earlier kernel with the same userspace drivers fix the problem?  If so, can you bisect?

(In reply to comment #1)
> Was it only the kernel that you updated?

Yes.


> E.g., does just booting an earlier kernel with the same userspace
> drivers fix the problem?

Yes. I also have 2.6.37.5 in my Grub menu. Booting that fixes those problems.


> If so, can you bisect?

Nope, sorry.  I simply don't have any free time currently for bisecting the kernel.

Forgot to mention the Flash version I'm using:

10.2.153.1_p201011173, 64-bit.

lets blame page flipping until proven otherwise for any 2.6.38 problems ;-)

Can you try disabling page flip?

Option "EnablePageFlip" "FALSE" in xorg.conf device section.

(In reply to comment #4)
> lets blame page flipping until proven otherwise for any 2.6.38 problems ;-)
> 
> Can you try disabling page flip?
> 
> Option "EnablePageFlip" "FALSE" in xorg.conf device section.

Indeed that fixed the problem completely.

Created attachment 44923 [details] [review]
possible fix

Does this drm patch fix the issue?

(In reply to comment #6)
> Does this drm patch fix the issue?

Nope.

Pure guesswork, but maybe worth trying:

Can you check in your ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc if setting the option UnredirectFullscreen to false...

UnredirectFullscreen=false

...and restarting kwin makes any difference?

-mario

Might be related to bug 35452.  You might also try the xserver patch on that bug.

(In reply to comment #8)
> Pure guesswork, but maybe worth trying:
> 
> Can you check in your ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc if setting the option
> UnredirectFullscreen to false...
> 
> UnredirectFullscreen=false
> 
> ...and restarting kwin makes any difference?

Yes. This also fixes the issue. Another "issue" appears though when doing this: fullscreen animations are not smooth anymore; there's frameskipping at every exact interval (about one second.) This is not video related though. With compositing active, all animations, including glxgears running in a very small window, exhibit this frameskipping.  The only way to get really even and smooth animations is to run in fullscreen (which suspends compositing by default on KDE.)

So I guess the issue is triggered when KDE unredirects the rendering. But it's strange that it happens only with Flash and not other applications (KDE unredirects them too).


(In reply to comment #9)
> Might be related to bug 35452.  You might also try the xserver patch on that
> bug.

Just tried the patch. Doesn't help.

(In reply to comment #10)
> (In reply to comment #8)
> > Pure guesswork, but maybe worth trying:
> > 
> > Can you check in your ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc if setting the option
> > UnredirectFullscreen to false...
> > 
> > UnredirectFullscreen=false
> > 
> > ...and restarting kwin makes any difference?
> 
> Yes. This also fixes the issue. Another "issue" appears though when doing this:
> fullscreen animations are not smooth anymore; there's frameskipping at every
> exact interval (about one second.) This is not video related though. With
> compositing active, all animations, including glxgears running in a very small
> window, exhibit this frameskipping.  The only way to get really even and smooth
> animations is to run in fullscreen (which suspends compositing by default on
> KDE.)
> 
> So I guess the issue is triggered when KDE unredirects the rendering. But it's
> strange that it happens only with Flash and not other applications (KDE
> unredirects them too).
> 
> 
> (In reply to comment #9)
> > Might be related to bug 35452.  You might also try the xserver patch on that
> > bug.
> 
> Just tried the patch. Doesn't help.

If UnredirectFullscreen=false fixes the problem then it really sounds like it is bug 35452 and that xserver patch should help. Without that patch and unredirected rendering you should observe screen corruption in most other fullscreen apps as well, esp. when they switch out of fullscreen mode. At least Compiz is almost unuseable without that patch with unredirected fullscreen windows.

The frameskipping with redirected windows is probably because the compositor doesn't run at the same composition rate as the redraw rate of the app or the refresh rate of the monitor.

(In reply to comment #11)
> [...]
> If UnredirectFullscreen=false fixes the problem then it really sounds like it
> is bug 35452 and that xserver patch should help. Without that patch and
> unredirected rendering you should observe screen corruption in most other
> fullscreen apps as well, esp. when they switch out of fullscreen mode. At least
> Compiz is almost unuseable without that patch with unredirected fullscreen
> windows.

This isn't the case here. There's no screen corruption whatsoever without that patch. The problem I'm having with Flash never results in actuall screen corruption either. It's mostly a black screen, a system freeze or the screen just "hangs" and only the mouse is able to move. I never observe any corruption (which I understand to mean "random garbage" on the screen.)


> The frameskipping with redirected windows is probably because the compositor
> doesn't run at the same composition rate as the redraw rate of the app or the
> refresh rate of the monitor.

I've set MaxFPS=60 in kwinrc and my monitor runs at 60Hz. I guess KWin isn't good in keeping things synced, that's why it skips frames.

This sounds an very similar to the issue I am having. Note that I am seeing this for quite a while now, ever since I switched to the gallium r300 driver. First I blamed it for most of my components being bleeding-edge (kernel drm, userspace libraries and so on). But the stuff slowly got merged into the kernel and distributions, but the issue persists. I had high hops for the page-flipping bug fix in 2.6.38, but it didn't fix the issue I am seeing.

Most of the time, at some point X would just stop updating the screen (sound continues working and everything else seems to be alive). Actually, I traced it down to compiz being unable to update the screen. Ctrl-Alt-F1 to the console, "killall -9 compiz" and starting another non-GL window manager, the desktop is usable just fine. (in 80% of the cases, I also had occasional total lockups, where I had to hard reset the machine)
Most of the time, this issue is triggered by heavy screen updates.  I tend to not run Flash full-screen, but this is the kind of screen updates that is likely to trigger the issue. Sometimes I can go for 1 day without that type of crash, sometimes I can get it within 30 minutes.

After killing compiz (when the issue got triggered), GL is totally unusable. Also, while the whole desktop then fully functional, a simple glxgears would just lock up, both via AIGLX or directly. Killing the X server resolves the issue, but sometimes even that won't help, everything GL related seems then to be totally locked up and only a reboot can resolve the issue.

I am also running 64 bit Gentoo and only out-of-the box software versions (2.6.38, mesa-7.10.1) at the moment, and sane compiler flags (-O2 -march=core2) on a Lenovo T60 (Mobility X1400, r500 family).

I haven't tried disabling page flipping or any patches yet, since I just stumbled upon this bug report.

So, I'm not sure if this is the same or a different issue. It seems to be something in the kernel locking up, and in most of the cases userspace is still running, so there might be a chance to being able to debug it without resorting to guess-work. Since the thing starte since I switched to the gallium version, I wouldn't know how to start bisecting.

(In reply to comment #13)
> Actually, I traced it down to compiz being unable to update the screen.
> Ctrl-Alt-F1 to the console, "killall -9 compiz" and starting another non-GL
> window manager, the desktop is usable just fine.

That really sounds like bug 35452.

Hmm, I wouldn't have made the connection with "graphical glitches" and also I'm not disabling redirection in fullscreen mode, but I'm still trying the attached patch. I applied it yesterday evening and X has been running ever since. If it stays that for the next few days I will call you my personal hero. ;) I'll come back otherwise.

(In reply to comment #15)
> Hmm, I wouldn't have made the connection with "graphical glitches" and also I'm
> not disabling redirection in fullscreen mode, but I'm still trying the attached
> patch. I applied it yesterday evening and X has been running ever since. If it
> stays that for the next few days I will call you my personal hero. ;) I'll come
> back otherwise.

Just to be clear, which patch are you referring to?  The one from bug 35452 or the one from comment 6 of this bug?

I was referring to Bug 35452.  But bad news: That fix didn't make a difference, I just experienced the same GL lockup again.  Just for completeness I'll also apply the patch from comment 6 ind addition to see if that makes any difference.

Oh, well, that patch only concerns rs600, right?  So no point in that...

(In reply to comment #18)
> Oh, well, that patch only concerns rs600, right?  So no point in that...

That rs600 code is shared by r5xx-r7xx (same regs on all asics in that range), so it applies to your card.

Applied that patch to my kernel yesterday and just experienced the issue again. Killed compiz, X went on, but GL is unusable. If I run e.g. glxgears, the application doesn't draw anything, but is still running and seems to be waiting for something from the X server. Closing the window results in some error "34" IIRC (I can write down the exact error next time if it helps).

I just tried kernel 2.6.39-rc7 and with page flipping enabled, the driver hangs with that version too.

Does this patch fix the issue:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=498c555f56a02ec1059bc150cde84411ba0ac010

(In reply to comment #22)
> Does this patch fix the issue:
> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=498c555f56a02ec1059bc150cde84411ba0ac010

Nope.  (I applied it to 2.6.39.1.)

Created attachment 48109 [details]
config-2.6.39.1

Just in case it matters (though probably unlikely), here's my .config. It's very minimal and only includes stuff I need, so it should build very quickly (5 minutes on a 2.7Gh Core 2 Duo.) Of course chipset and USB drivers would probably need to change if you don't happen to run an X38-based mainboard.

I just found out that this seems to happen only with the 64-bit Flash plugin, version 10.2.159.1.  To reproduce the crash, here's the download for that Flash version:

http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_2_p3_64bit_linux_111710.tar.gz

The new version of 64-bit Flash (11.0.something) seems to use a different method to display video (a pretty useless method, which tears in fullscreen and is extremely slow, making fullscreen videos unwatchable.)

(In reply to comment #25)
> To reproduce the crash, here's the download for that Flash
> version:
> 
> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_2_p3_64bit_linux_111710.tar.gz

> The new version of 64-bit Flash (11.0.something) seems to use a different
> method to display video (a pretty useless method, which tears in fullscreen and
> is extremely slow, making fullscreen videos unwatchable.)

yeah, I got this problem since November / December  , with my Intel i915, various problems after upgrades of glibc ... I still have it ( System locks up when watching fullscreen flash video ) , well I don't like lock ups , so I don't test it often . 
With Fedora 14 and 15

Something changed somewhere (no idea where), and I can't reproduce it anymore.