Bug 7525

Created attachment 6226 [details]
Screenshot

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De: Albert Graham <agraham at g-b dot net>

> Nicolas Mailhot wrote:      
> >> Can you provide a screenshot?
> >>
> >>	 
> 
> No problem.
> 
> http://g-b.net/kconsole.png
> 
> The focal point is the IP address, in this case a non-routable 192.168.12.4
> 
> [root@agraham /]# ping  192.160.12.4
> PING 192.160.12.4 (192.160.12.4) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 
> Then after a while I stick my nose to the screen and realize I've made a 
> typo :)

Viewing the screenshot I can easily distinguish between 0 and 8.
I am not sure if something else related to the monitor that is not visible in
the screenshot causes a problem.

I tried to reproduce in GNOME Terminal by disabling smoothing or hinting. I
could not reproduce the type of dot you can see inside the zero. In the
screenshot, it looks similar to a thin horizontal bar, which is displaced (a bit
higher and to the left). In the screenshot it looks that no smoothing has been
enabled in KDE.

I am wondering if the reporter could try out with GNOME terminal
(gnome-terminal), if it is installed.

Another issue that one could take into account is the subpixel order; on my TFT
screen, underscores (=thin horizontal bar) show in different colours depending
on the value of the subpixel order.

Le Mar 18 juillet 2006 11:15, Paul Howarth a écrit :

> I do actually. My eyesight isn't great, but I'm using it at home and at
> work (hence two different monitors) and this is the only issue I have
> with DejaVu, which I generally like, having used it for a week or so.

(In reply to comment #3)
> Le Mar 18 juillet 2006 11:15, Paul Howarth a écrit :
> 
> > I do actually. My eyesight isn't great, but I'm using it at home and at
> > work (hence two different monitors) and this is the only issue I have
> > with DejaVu, which I generally like, having used it for a week or so.

I think it's my eyesight really. If I magnify the text (with a magnifying glass,
not by changing any setting) then I can easily tell the difference between 0 and
8. It just means I'll need to use bigger font sizes than I currently use, though
for most purposes I can get by with the smaller font. With the old default FC5
font, I had similar difficulties distinguishing between 0 and O, though I don't
think that was as big a problem.

Paul.

Created attachment 6253 [details]
image from gnome-termonal


De:	  "Albert Graham" <agraham at g-b dot net>


Hi Nicolas,

I really don't want to sign up for this bugzilla, I'm just too busy (as 
you are), but they did request this image from gnome-termonal, so if you 
could post that via your account.

http://www.g-b.net/gnome-termonal-under-KDE.png

Also, It seems that everybody disagrees with my argument on this matter, 
so I'm no longer following this thread, instead I'm going to buy a 24in 
LCD braille screen, so next time I'm confused, I can just feel the for 
that nasty little dot.

Thanks.

Albert.

De:       "Steven Stern" <subscribed-lists at sterndata dot com>

A couple of first impressions:

I like the dot in the zero, but it looks odd in that it's not centered.
I had some other fonts with a centered zero that, to my eye, looked
better.

The dot is perfectly centered when using the interpreter -- at least when the
figureheight is odd or large enough that it is more than one pixel tall.

That screenshot looks like it is auto-hinted:  the stems are not snapped to
whole pixels and the dot is a three pixel diameter disc rather than one pixel.

So, to the OP:  recompile freetype with -DTT_CONFIG_OPTION_BYTECODE_INTERPRETER
in CFLAGS and you'll find it much easier to read.

cleaning up