Currently, Images in LibreOffice are sometimes referred to as "Graphic", sometimes as "Picture". "Image" is a more generic word which implies both other words. So the task is to rename the user-visible Strings from "Graphic" and "Picture" to "Image". This includes updating the help. Any objections from UX-Advise?
Adding UX-Advise to CC.
Samuel Mehrbrodt committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=fdf00229816f5d0f59f90b0266115d293060e2cc fdo#70998 Term Change: Picture/Graphic -> Image The patch should be included in the daily builds available at http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
There are still places where this needs to be changed. Opening this for others, just search http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/ for terms like "Picture", "Graphic", "Graphics" and change all user-visible Strings to "Image". The help also needs updating (Select Project "help" in OpenGrok).
(In reply to comment #0) > Any objections from UX-Advise? Just to mention; as a translator I have circumvented the issue, using mostly the same local expression for the two. OTOH concerning plural forms, to me "Graphics" would signify a broader range of images, symbols, clipart, etc. But I'm not native english speaker.
Samuel Mehrbrodt committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=90ef8ac1b5d94c24ff0d5a26a8ca6b6769f225c1 fdo#70998 Termchange: Graphics->Image The patch should be included in the daily builds available at http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
I can't judge if this change is useful (and it would be nice if a native speaker could comment it), but I'm wondering why you use "Image" always capitalized, even in sentences like "Unknown Image format". Is there any reason for that? Btw, if you have finished this, I can change the terms in help.
(In reply to comment #6) > I can't judge if this change is useful (and it would be nice if a native > speaker could comment it), but I'm wondering why you use "Image" always > capitalized, even in sentences like "Unknown Image format". Is there any > reason for that? It's Sentence Case (see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/WidgetLayout#Widgets_requiring_HIG_guidelines_review) > Btw, if you have finished this, I can change the terms in help. Thank's, I'll let you know.
I'm confused now. In case of sentence capitalizing, there should be lowercase "i" if it is not the first word (https://developer.gnome.org/hig-book/3.2/design-text-labels.html.en#layout-capitalization) - or not?
You are right, I meant Header Case. Thanks for the Link btw, I'll give more attention to that with the coming patches.
Using Insert->Image->From File shows a dialog with title "Insert picture". I guess that should be "image" as well. Version: 4.2.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: 2c92030ff07aff9b10e49844343390925b81545c
Chr. Rossmanith committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=c5abb32126d9b1e8c01fb2ea37e4244695428495 fdo#70998 Use "Insert Image" in dialog as well The patch should be included in the daily builds available at http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Yeah, please take care of using the correct capitalization before LibreOffice 4.2 enters Pootle - otherwise many strings will have to be retranslated.
What would be correct capitalization? I had a look at "Insert -> Movie and Sound" and thought image could be written with a capital "I" as well "Insert Image". Not only the menu entry of "Movie and Sound" is capitalized but the dialog title as well.
When preparing help update I noticed that this term change has not been completed and the current state is much worse than the original one. Now we have for instance the Picture dialog with Picture tab chosen by Format - Image. There is also a lot of incorrectly used singulars instead of plurals (see e.g. "Image" in Navigator). Incorrect capitalization was mentioned above and is only minor issue. Unchanged items (random and not complete list): context menu on an image: Change Picture, Save Graphics, Compress Graphics, Picture, Crop Picture Picture dialog with Picture tab Picture toolbar with Graphic Filter bar Graphics option in dialog for creating index Set Background Picture for Slide Tools - Options - LO Writer - View: Graphics and objects Tools - Options - LO Writer - Print: Pictures and objects
Btw. link to help update: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/9244/
Stanislav Horacek committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/help/commit/?id=a8572d0a8c380e9a04001e3ec638c13519d79d83 fdo#70998 change terms graphics/picture to image The patch should be included in the daily builds available at http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Created attachment 101069 [details] [review] Diff of Changes from Picture/Graphic to Image http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/officecfg/registry/schema/org/openoffice/Office/Common.xcs
Created attachment 101070 [details] [review] Diff of Changes from Picture/Graphic to Image http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/svx/inc/globlmn_tmpl.hrc
Created attachment 101071 [details] [review] Diff of Changes from Picture/Graphic to Image http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sd/source/ui/app/menuids_tmpl.src
Found on Debian Jessie's Version: 4.2.4.2 I realize that some may not apply since Debian packages slightly older versions, usually. Writer -> View -> Toolbars -> Picture Writer -> Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice -> Memory -> Graphics cache Writer -> Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice Writer -> View -> Graphics and objects Writer -> Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice Writer -> Print -> Pictures and objects Writer -> Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice Writer/Web -> View -> Graphics and objects Writer -> Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice Writer/Web -> Print -> Pictures and objects Writer -> Tools -> Customize -> Keyboard -> Functions -> Category -> Graphic Writer -> Tools -> Customize -> Keyboard -> Functions -> Category -> Format || Function -> Graphics mode (Right Click on Image in Writer) -> Picture... (Right Click on Image in Writer) -> Save Graphic... (Right Click on Image in Writer) -> Compress Graphic... (Right Click on Image in Writer) -> Picture... -> Picture Writer -> Side Bar -> Properties -> Graphic Writer -> Side Bar -> Styles and Formatting -> Graphics Writer -> Toolbar -> Apply Style -> Graphics ***Should be the same as the one above??? Writer -> Toolbar -> Apply Style -> Paragraphs Styles -> Default Styles -> Caption -> Illustration ???I'm not sure about this one. Toolbars -> Graphic filter Toolbars -> Picture
Stanislav Horacek committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=7fa690d1df4f79f129af28319381e1fd83e1b178 related fdo#70998 change names in Navigator to plural The patch should be included in the daily builds available at http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Samuel Mehrbrodt committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=1a57c512c051cb8b1809f00e569a402ff6be5878 fdo#70998 Termchange: Picture->Image The patch should be included in the daily builds available at http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
*** Bug 84401 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
After skimming through < http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=fdf00229816f5d0f59f90b0266115d293060e2cc > and < http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=90ef8ac1b5d94c24ff0d5a26a8ca6b6769f225c1 > and noticed that you had capitalized instances of the word 'image' that shouldnt be capitalized, like for example - "Contains specialized data for internal Image filter.", "Contains information about a linked file, i.e. an Image file.", "Some OLE objects could only be saved as Images.". So it might be good to make sure all the replacements are suitable when in sentences. Just my two cents. I think the word graphic is suitable when referring to both images, object shapes, etc, while picture or image are both suitable for an image from a file. Some people would call a picture something they take with their phone or draw on a paint canvas, while other would use the word image for those same to things. = The Competition = MS Word - Picture WPS Writer - Picture iWork Page - Photos WordPerfect - Graphic/Picture Abiword - Picture Calligra Words - Image
Samuel Mehrbrodt committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=145eda05e5a35f17118726e74b511cdd1f36a53a fdo#70998 Fix capitalization The patch should be included in the daily builds available at http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Samuel Mehrbrodt committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=d9632a6effabe8554c4e7e05ee24c16acd0f4f95 fdo#70998 Fix capitalization The patch should be included in the daily builds available at http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Updated list of remaining occurences of "Graphics" or "Pictures" from the comment above (in current master) - I don't know if all of them should be renamed: Writer -> Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice -> Memory -> Graphics cache Writer -> Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice Writer -> View -> Graphics and objects Writer -> Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice Writer -> Print -> Pictures and objects Writer -> Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice Writer/Web -> View -> Graphics and objects Writer -> Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice Writer/Web -> Print -> Pictures and objects Writer -> Tools -> Customize -> Keyboard -> Functions -> Category -> Graphic Writer -> Tools -> Customize -> Keyboard -> Functions -> Category -> Format || Function -> Graphics mode Writer -> Side Bar -> Properties -> Graphic Writer -> Side Bar -> Styles and Formatting -> Graphics Writer -> Toolbar -> Apply Style -> Graphics ***Should be the same as the one above??? Writer -> Toolbar -> Apply Style -> Paragraphs Styles -> Default Styles -> Caption -> Illustration ???I'm not sure about this one. Toolbars -> Graphic filter
Some of the ones listed were already changed, so here are the ones i think can be changed. (In reply to gat from comment #20) > Writer -> Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice -> Memory -> Graphics cache > Writer -> Side Bar -> Styles and Formatting -> Graphics Should be changed if these are limited to just images. > Writer -> Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice Writer -> View -> Graphics and > objects > Writer -> Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice Writer/Web -> View -> Graphics and > objects Disabling these hide images from view, so this should be changed > Writer -> Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice Writer -> Print -> Pictures and > objects > Writer -> Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice Writer/Web -> Print -> Pictures > and objects Disabling this these images from print, so this should be changed. > Toolbars -> Graphic filter Where is this one locationed?
> > Toolbars -> Graphic filter > > Where is this one locationed? It appears when you click the "Filter" icon on the Image bar and undock the toolbar which pops up.
(In reply to Stanislav Horacek from comment #29) > It appears when you click the "Filter" icon on the Image bar and undock the > toolbar which pops up. Yep that should be changed and likely to 'Image Filters'. I also noticed that 'Graphic' is a section name in the sidebar and this should be changed. The frame style 'Graphics' could be changed to 'Images' if this wont effect already created documents.
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