Bug 106890 - Some glyphs of the phonetic notations in the International Phonetic Alphabet are not designed correctly
Summary: Some glyphs of the phonetic notations in the International Phonetic Alphabet ...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: DejaVu
Classification: Unclassified
Component: General (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: All All
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Assignee: Deja Vu bugs
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Reported: 2018-06-11 14:29 UTC by Lý Quỳnh Thuận
Modified: 2018-06-12 03:35 UTC (History)
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2018-06-11 15:36 UTC, Lý Quỳnh Thuận
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Description Lý Quỳnh Thuận 2018-06-11 14:29:48 UTC
According to the International Phonetic Association, some glyphs of the phonetic notations of the International Phonetic Alphabet in DejaVu Sans font are not designed correctly: https://www.internationalphoneticassociation.org/content/full-ipa-chart


• The symbol for the labiodental flap [ⱱ, Unicode: U+2C71] is not quite right in this font (and in many fonts). We recommend using the symbol from another sans serif font, SIL’s Andika, for this symbol.
• The symbol for the alveolar tap [ɾ, Unicode: U+027E] has a serif. This makes the shape more clearly different from the trill symbol. However, if a sans serif symbol is desired, the tap symbol from SIL’s Andika font can be used.
• The symbol for the voiced palatal implosive [ʄ, Unicode: U+0284] in this font has an extra half cross-bar, above the full cross-bar. Therefore the symbol shown here is made by combining 0283+0335.
• The Laminal diacritic [Unicode: U+033B] is square and small, and therefore tends to be confused with the voiceless diacritic [U+0325]. We recommend that this diacritic be made extra-large so that its shape is clearly a square, not a circle. (In IPA Kiel, this diacritic is correctly a rectangle.)
• The exact tone contour [˥, Unicode: U+02E5] shown in the Rising-falling tone letter [˨˥˨, Unicode: 02E8 + 02E5 + 02E8] is different from IPA Kiel’s.
• The shape of the Velarized diacritic [ˠ, Unicode: U+02E0] is not quite the same as that of the voiced velar fricative [ɣ, Unicode: U+0263].
• A problem for all fonts, due to the design of symbols introduced in 1989, is that the distinctions between the dental click [ǀ, Unicode: U+01C0] and the minor group [|, Unicode: U+007C], and between the lateral click [ǁ, Unicode: U+01C1] and the major group [‖, Unicode: U+2016], are small at best. At the time of the Kiel convention, it was suggested that the grouping symbols be thicker than the click symbols. In the 2005 chart, the grouping symbols were in bold, and that is true of the 2015 charts as well. In addition, in sans serif fonts the alveolar lateral approximant is likely to be similar to both the dental click and the minor group. DejaVu does a relatively good job of keeping these distinct through line length and thickness.
Comment 1 Lý Quỳnh Thuận 2018-06-11 15:36:27 UTC
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Comment 2 Lý Quỳnh Thuận 2018-06-11 15:39:29 UTC
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Comment 3 Lý Quỳnh Thuận 2018-06-11 15:40:33 UTC
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Comment 4 Lý Quỳnh Thuận 2018-06-11 15:41:01 UTC
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Comment 5 Lý Quỳnh Thuận 2018-06-12 02:14:42 UTC
Created attachment 140128 [details]

The right shoulder of the symbol "ⱱ" (Unicode: U+2C71)should be higher than the left shoulder, the two shoulders of this symbol should not have the same height as the two shoulder of the two letters "v" and "u" (see the symbol "ⱱ" in IPA Kiel (2015): https://www.internationalphoneticassociation.org/sites/default/files/IPA_Kiel_2015.pdf )
Comment 6 Lý Quỳnh Thuận 2018-06-12 02:49:07 UTC

The glyph for laminal diacritic (Unicode: U+033B) has the shape almost identical to the circle.

When the dotted circle (Unicode: U+25CC) combines with the laminal diacritic (U+033B) or the voiceless diacritic (U+0325), they are stuck together. They need to be separated.
Comment 7 Lý Quỳnh Thuận 2018-06-12 03:24:49 UTC
Pic 1

The right leg of the inverted-V shape in the rising-falling tone letter ˨˥˨ (a combination of U+02E8 ˨, U+02E5 ˥, and U+02E8 ˨) is slightly lower than the left leg, especially in the small font size.

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