Bug 11613 - Describe available layouts better
Summary: Describe available layouts better
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: xkeyboard-config
Classification: Unclassified
Component: General (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: Other All
: medium normal
Assignee: xkb
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Reported: 2007-07-15 11:54 UTC by Sven Arvidsson
Modified: 2008-12-21 16:28 UTC (History)
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Description Sven Arvidsson 2007-07-15 11:54:12 UTC
[ Forwarded from http://bugs.debian.org/347149 ]

"gnome-keyboard-properties includes the following five options for keyboard
layout (among others):

    - U.S. English
      - International (with dead keys)
    - U.S. English w/ dead keys
    - U.S. English w/ ISO9995-3
      - Eliminate dead keys

I don't really have any idea how these differ; how is "U.S. English
International (with dead keys)" different from "U.S. English w/ dead
keys"?  Does "U.S. English w/ ISO9995-3" have dead keys?  Why are these
five options grouped in three sections, instead of together in one?

Also, I know what dead keys are, but if I didn't, Gnome wouldn't tell me
(although Google will).  I don't know what ISO9995-3 is, and in this case,
Google is no help either.

A picture of the keyboard is displayed with each option, but it appears
to be the same, giving no basis for choosing one layout over another.

It would be very helpful if someone who understands how these keyboard
layouts differ renamed them in Gnome to make the choices clear.  It
would also be helpful if Gnome included an explanation of dead keys."

This bug was first filed as GNOME #376394, but it was pointed out that these strings belong in xkeyboard-config.
Comment 1 Sergey V. Udaltsov 2007-07-15 13:53:37 UTC
ok, first of all - yes, this is the right place to discuss these strings;)

I just looked at the variant names in xkeyboard-config/symbols/us:

$ grep name symbols/us
name[Group1]= "U.S. English";
name[Group1]= "U.S. English - With EuroSign on 5";
name[Group1]= "U.S. English - International (with dead keys)";
name[Group1]= "U.S. English - Alternative international (former us_intl)";
name[Group1]= "U.S. English - Dvorak";
name[Group1]= "U.S. English - Left handed Dvorak";
name[Group1]= "U.S. English - Right handed Dvorak";
name[Group1]= "U.S. English - Classic Dvorak";
name[Group1]= "U.S. English - Russian phonetic";
name[Group1]= "U.S. English - Macintosh";
name[Group1]= "U.S. English - Colemak";

There is no mentioning of ISO9995-3. Which of these names should be explained in more details? The names like "Dvorak" or "Colemak" are unclear - but here the simple rule applies: "if you do not know it, most likely you do not need it;)" But anyway, I am open to suggestions; if you have better wordings, please let me know.
Comment 2 Sven Arvidsson 2007-07-17 10:04:53 UTC
It does look like the descriptions are a little less cryptic, and I agree with your point about this being mostly self-explanatory to those who need it. Anyway, I pointed the original bug submitter from Debian to this discussion in case he would like to give his opinion. 
Comment 3 Benjamin Close 2008-01-11 02:39:05 UTC
Bugzilla Upgrade Mass Bug Change

NEEDSINFO state was removed in Bugzilla 3.x, reopening any bugs previously listed as NEEDSINFO.

  - benjsc
    fd.o Wrangler
Comment 4 Sergey V. Udaltsov 2008-12-21 16:28:24 UTC
No further comments for 1.5 years...


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