Based on an IRC conversation I submit the following. It would be great if Clipart Contributers had even more requests to work from. Fulfilling requests would make the collection larger, and possible more relevant to a wider base of Clip Art users. With this in mind, I feel that the simplest way for the average clipart user to make a request would be a simple web form. Below is a possible sample to be used as jump off point. Possible form for submission of Clip Art Requests. Name ____________ Email ____________ (Optional - is e-mail required to submit a request ?) Description of Request ____________ (Please describe what you'd like drawn) Style [] Cartoonish [] Illustrative [] 3-D Effect [] Symbol [] Other ____________ Colours [] Black and White [] Limited Colours [] Many colours are OK [] Other ____________ Attachment: I am attaching (or linking) a... [] Hand drawn image scanned [] Photo of item for illustration [] Other______________ Clip Art Artist should... [] Make the clipart as close to my file as possible. [] Make the Clipart based on my file in the style I listed above. [] Has full artistic license. [] Requestor agrees that any clipart based on uploaded file is to be placed and used in the public domain etc, and that uploaded file is not subject to copywrite that would make the request a violation. OPTIONAL SECTION Requestor found OpenClipArt site by... [] web search [] referal [] other [] etc. Requestor intends to use Clip Art for... [] Online graphics [] Printed output [] other options as desired here... Other possible information could be gathered here.
Created attachment 2921 [details] [review] Proposed patch Was learning about forms this evening, so I used this as an example to work on. Hopefully this helps even a little.
Very cool man! We have to figure out how to attach this to the site and then track clipart. I wonder if making this as an interface to bugzilla wouldn't be such a bad idea? We need to figure out how to do user management, so I wonder if tieing into Bugzilla's db wouldn't be such a bad idea. So if we went this route, then clipart requests would be filed as bugs into this bugtracker. I could setup another product for clipart requests. Maybe though this needs to be more integrated with the website. Thoughts on this? I think that integration on the site is probably better. Anyhow, the form looks great.
Yes I think integration to the web site is way batter. Most clipart users are not going to be willing to create a bugzilla account and jump through hoops to make a request. It needs to be as simple to use as possible. However I read in someones e-mail that it would be good to be able track if someone is working on a request, and if it is complete or what. This would be good as a bug, but I still think it would be too complicated for general clipart users. Also of note I just remembered somone suggesting the requestor be able to place a "need by" date into the request. So should be added to the form if this becomes a go.
Cool, you should have a go at adding it to the website to a test page. Then, we can work together on implementing this functionality. I need to spearhead the user management system.
Just to give a few pointers: 1) The usability of the form could be *greatly* improved if the label element was used. Two good links: * http://htmldog.com/guides/htmlbeginner/forms/ * http://htmldog.com/guides/htmladvanced/forms/ You can also wrap a label around an element and thus don't need to use the for attribute. Like so: <label>Your name: <input type="text [...] ></label> This is especially important on radio buttons and check boxes as they are very very small and hard to click otherwise. 2) You could also use legends and fieldsets -- see the above links. 3) Please convert it to XHTML -- we should use the same DOCTYPE throughout the site otherwise things would just get silly.
As much as I like Bugzilla, I agree that we probably don't want to require end users to create a bugzilla account in order to submit clipart requests. > Also of note I just remembered somone suggesting the requestor be able > to place a "need by" date into the request. I would worry that a "need by" date, labelled that way, could create an expectation that the request would (or should, or needs to) be filled by that date, which is an expectation we probably don't want to create. Perhaps it should be labelled "Request expires" (or something along those lines) instead, to convey the subtly-different idea that the requester only wants the item if it can be done by that date. I realise that I'm picking semantic nits here, but I think the difference in expectations could potentially be significant.
Created attachment 3071 [details] Example difference image Made some revisions to the form as suggested.
I see that this is already addressed somewhat in the layout of the form but I think the description part should have a little text about how a request is more likly to be filled if it is very descriptive and not something like "church clipart" That is too broad a catagory for most artists to tackle. The more files requested in a single submition, the less likly to be filled. From filling requests and watching requests be filled, the ones that are usually done are the ones that are simple requests or are very detailed in what they are looking for. Sorry, I ramble....
(In reply to comment #2) I think using Bugzilla is a good idea, we just need to create a front end on the openclipart site that allows for easy submission and review of the request. As far as needing bugzilla accounts, we could have a generic "clipartrequest" bugzilla user. When a new submission occurs, to keep track of the requestors name and email you could have the description start with something like: RequestedBy : <Name> RequestedByEmail: <E-mail Address> comments from the submission form A similar account could be used for the clip artist responding to the request. A quick perusal of the bugzilla docs, shows that the response to your bugzilla query can come back in different formats, html, rdf, etc. So hopefully something like the rdf format would be relatively easy to parse and then display in a preferred format on the openclipart site. This approach may be as complicated, or even more so, than just coming up with our own from scatch, but I think it is worth exploring.
This is easy to do now, but we have changed the way we do things. This is out of date :)
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