Bug 35921 - UI: Allow permanent suppression of Task Pane and Slide Pane
Summary: UI: Allow permanent suppression of Task Pane and Slide Pane
Status: VERIFIED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Impress (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
3.5.3 release
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Rob Snelders
URL:
Whiteboard:
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2011-04-03 01:55 UTC by Jochen
Modified: 2012-11-29 18:20 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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sample file (11.26 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.presentation)
2011-04-07 13:51 UTC, Jochen
Details
screenshot (213.43 KB, image/jpeg)
2011-04-07 14:06 UTC, Jochen
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Description Jochen 2011-04-03 01:55:35 UTC
When opening a existing impress-file the "remit-field" (German: Aufgabenbereich) is shown.

If in menue "view" "remit-field" (German: Aufgabenbereich) has been hided and opening the impress-file again remit-field" (German: Aufgabenbereich) is shown again.

Resume: questionable bug (i.e. permanent suppression not possible)
Comment 1 Jan Holesovsky 2011-04-07 11:09:07 UTC
Can you please attach the document that shows the behavior?  Thank you!
Comment 2 Jochen 2011-04-07 13:51:49 UTC
Created attachment 45401 [details]
sample file

Response to your request
Comment 3 Jochen 2011-04-07 13:55:13 UTC
Soory. Wrong attach.
Comment 4 Jochen 2011-04-07 14:06:55 UTC
Created attachment 45402 [details]
screenshot

correct attach
Comment 5 Björn Michaelsen 2011-12-23 11:46:57 UTC Comment hidden (noise)
Comment 6 Jochen 2011-12-23 12:53:21 UTC
Bug persists IMHO
Comment 7 Jochen 2011-12-23 12:55:14 UTC
Sorry.

Bug persists IMHO. Tested with LO 3.5 Beta2 (today).
Comment 8 Björn Michaelsen 2011-12-23 14:58:59 UTC
NEW, unassigned bug: replace "infoprovider" with move to state "NEEDINFO".
Comment 9 Björn Michaelsen 2011-12-23 17:01:53 UTC
needinfo keyword redundant by needinfo status.
Comment 10 Björn Michaelsen 2011-12-24 03:25:32 UTC
setting bug back to state UNCONFIRMED as bug reporter has answered the request for information.
Comment 11 sasha.libreoffice 2012-04-05 09:45:13 UTC
Thanks for bugreport
Panes "Slides" and "Tasks" appears automatically. It is not a bug. It is presentation. But we can ask developers for adding option, that disables them permanently. For this we should transform this bug to functionality request.

Meanwhile, just undock this pane. It may closed then more quickly.
May I ask You: for what this needed? To achieve something like fullscreen mode for editing slides? Or something else?
Comment 12 Roman Eisele 2012-05-27 02:52:09 UTC
Sasha is right. 
Set Status to RESOLVED/NOTABUG according to comment #11.
Comment 13 Jochen 2012-05-27 03:17:46 UTC
@Sasha:
> Meanwhile, just undock this pane. It may closed then more quickly.

I too. But it is IMHO a click too much - IMHO unnecessary (I know: subjective opinion). I use presentation very often.

> May I ask You: for what this needed? To achieve something like fullscreen mode
> for editing slides? Or something else?

When opening a existing impress-file the "remit-field" (German:
Aufgabenbereich) is shown. I usually do not need the "remit-field".

Enhancement:
Create a setting/option, that after hidding "remit-field" (German: Aufgabenbereich), closing presentation und re-opening presentation "remit-field" is shown never again.

I have changed status to "unconfirmed" and importance to "enhancement".
Comment 14 Roman Eisele 2012-05-27 04:34:24 UTC
(In reply to comment #13)

> Enhancement:
> Create a setting/option, that after hidding "remit-field" (German:
> Aufgabenbereich), closing presentation und re-opening presentation
> "remit-field" is shown never again.
> 
> I have changed status to "unconfirmed" and importance to "enhancement".

OK; adapted Summary field to reflect that this is now an enhancement request, and set Status to "NEW".
Comment 15 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2012-05-27 04:44:36 UTC
[Reproducible] with "LibreOffice 3.5.4.2 (RC2) German UI/Locale [Build-ID: 165a79a-7059095-e13bb37-fef39a4-9503d18] on German WIN7 Home Premium (64bit), still in WRITER.

It's at least inconsistent that Navigator can be deselected permanently, but Task Pane and Slide Pane only for this session, although the items view does not cause any suspect that behavior might be different.

Same with DRAW Slide pane.

For me that's a Bug, but let's follow AOOo and leave it an RFE.
Comment 16 sasha.libreoffice 2012-05-28 01:07:46 UTC
@ Jochen
As I can understand, You not press F5 for show presentation in SlideShow mode, but use Edit mode for demonstrating presentation? And need to disable pane for spare some screen area. I right understand problem or no?
Comment 17 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2012-05-28 01:16:32 UTC
@sasha:
I do not know for what Jochen needs that, but for me the desire is much more simple than you assume: When I open a document to continue editing, I want to see it exactly so as I saw it when I closed it. Same slide, same toolbars, same panes, ... .
That currently is broken because LibO on one's own authority enables some UI elements I disabled the last session
Comment 18 sasha.libreoffice 2012-05-28 01:21:59 UTC
> When I open a document to continue editing, I want to
> see it exactly so as I saw it when I closed it.
So, setting should be saved inside of document. For allow different setting for different document.
Comment 19 Jochen 2012-05-28 01:26:12 UTC
@Sasha:
No - this is not the problem.

The problem is the following fact:
Start LibreOffice respectively "impress" (the presentation component of LibreOffice) and/or open an existing impress-file (ppt-file).
If the existing impress-file (ppt-file) is opened, a "remit-field" (German:
Aufgabenbereich) is shown on the right half of the screen.
You can now close "remit-field". I do this automatically because I do not use this feature very often.
If you clos the impress-file and open this impress-file again this "remit-field" is shown again. Now I have to close the  "remit-field" again. This is IMHO a click too much - IMHO unnecessary (I know: subjective opinion). But I use impress very often. I have to do the click very often.
Rainer believes that a bug exists - o.k. bug or enhancement: this is the question.

Therefore my enhancement:
Create a setting/option, that after hidding "remit-field" (German:
Aufgabenbereich), closing presentation und re-opening presentation
"remit-field" is shown never again.

Do you now understand my mind? I believe that has previously been a misunderstanding.
Comment 20 Jochen 2012-05-28 01:30:22 UTC
@Sasha
reply to your mail from 2012-05-28 01:21:59 PDT

> So, setting should be saved inside of document.
I find no way to do this to solve my problem/request.

> For allow different setting for different document.
I find also no way to do this to solve my problem/request.
Comment 21 sasha.libreoffice 2012-05-28 01:50:34 UTC
It is formulation of functionality to be implemented: "Setting of UI should be saved inside of document". Developers need exact description what to implement for not spend time in discussions and immediately to begin programming.
Comment 22 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2012-05-28 02:08:33 UTC
Document related UI would be optimum (for example, for some spreadsheets I prefer "Enter with auto down", for others I prefer "Enter with auto right"), but here not discussed, please excuse me for my misleading comment. 

Here it is sufficient that LibO respects user's settings:
- when toolbars are undocked, Libo should not show them docked at next reopen
- when elements have been hidden, they should not be shown at next reopen
Comment 23 Rob Snelders 2012-05-28 09:03:03 UTC
added link to bug 35973 as there is work being done on remembering the visibility of the side-panes.
Comment 24 Rob Snelders 2012-11-05 23:08:16 UTC
From 3.7 on the Task-pane (German: Aufgabenbereich) and the slide-pane remember the state of the last session. So it comes close to the wanted feature. 

The problem with making it dependent on the file is that then that would need to be specified in the formats which probably isn't.
Comment 25 Roman Eisele 2012-11-29 12:11:20 UTC
@ Jochen:

What do you thing? Rob Snelders wrote (comment #24):
> From 3.7 on the Task-pane (German: Aufgabenbereich) and the slide-pane
> remember the state of the last session. So it comes close to the wanted
> feature.

Rob Snelders is definitely right here. The visibility status of the “Task” pane (German: “Aufgabenbereich”) is now remembered correctly; I have verified this with the newest daily build [1]. Thank you, Rob!

So what do you (Jochen) think -- can we close this bug now, or do you thing that more is necessary (e.g. making it depend on the file)?

Please state your opinion.
Thank you very much!


[1] Tested on Mac OS X 10.6.8 (Intel) with LOdev 4.0.0.0.alpha1+ (Build ID: 519c947f213ec69b0c92d3ea76193270644263e; pull time: 2012-11-28 04:07:39).
Comment 26 Jochen 2012-11-29 13:49:35 UTC
@Roman

I believe that the solution is ok -> status changed to RESOLVED FIXED.

The feature "Allow permanent suppression of Task Pane and Slide Pane" should be dependent on the component Impress and not on the file.
Comment 27 Roman Eisele 2012-11-29 18:13:18 UTC
@ Jochen:
Thank you!
Comment 28 Roman Eisele 2012-11-29 18:20:18 UTC
Assigned afterwards to Rob Snelders, because IIRC he has fixed this
(cf. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.0#Impress),
so let us give him the honour ;-)