We currently try to call offline/invisible people via temporary presence sharing (aka "decloaking" within Gabble; <http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0276.html>) which basically sends them directed presence with an embedded request to leak their presence back to us. This is largely useless, because nobody implements the "leak your presence" side except us, we have it off-by-default ourselves, and the reason it's off-by-default is that it's a presence leak. In principle it could be useful when calling gateways in which "leaking" presence is not a problem (because all the virtual users are permanently available anyway), but telepathy-fargo is the only gateway that actually implements it, and is not widely deployed. It's also not a particularly elegant protocol (there's an extra round-trip when it works, and an arbitrary delay when it doesn't). Now that people implement modern versions of Jingle and the namespace has stopped randomly changing, we could do a lot worse than just trying it: 19:47 < Robot101> google tends to assume an interoperable jingle subset for calls and just whack an offer together ... 19:55 < smcv> Robot101: oh, hmm. how does the "just staple together some caps" work if you don't know a full-JID? 19:56 < smcv> that's the other reason we need presence, apart from knowing which dialect/etc. to guess at 19:56 < smcv> maybe we could send it to apparently-offline people as a <message/> and they get a "missed call" though :-) 19:56 < Robot101> basically if you peg in a JID (whether a bare server, user@server or full) then the other end can choose to respond and make it work 19:57 < Robot101> (be aware call forking may ensue, I guess?) 19:57 < smcv> oh I see. so the bare JID case (which is all you'll ever get unless you type in or remember resources) will only work with server cooperation 19:57 < Robot101> yeah 19:57 < Robot101> in this picture, a gateway is a co-operating server
(In reply to comment #0) > 19:57 < smcv> oh I see. so the bare JID case (which is all you'll ever get > unless you type in or remember resources) will only work with > server cooperation Here's a really shoddy server-coöperation plugin for Prosody which sends back a redirect if you try to call a bare JID: http://people.collabora.co.uk/~wjt/tmp/mod_jingle.lua
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