Bug 73824 - "deliberates" is flagged by English (UK) spell-checker
Summary: "deliberates" is flagged by English (UK) spell-checker
Status: RESOLVED NOTOURBUG
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Linguistic (show other bugs)
Version:
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4.1.2.3 release
Hardware: Other All
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Reported: 2014-01-20 11:27 UTC by Kumāra
Modified: 2016-05-19 22:12 UTC (History)
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Description Kumāra 2014-01-20 11:27:54 UTC
On my LibO, "deliberates" (a valid word, the third-person singular form of the simple present indicative tense of the verb to deliberate) it flagged by the English (UK) spell-checker.
Comment 1 Julien Nabet 2014-01-20 20:58:04 UTC
On pc Debian x86-64 with 4.1 sources updated yesterday, I don't reproduce this.

On which env are you?
Do you reproduce after having renamed your LO directory profile? (see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile)
Comment 2 Kumāra 2014-01-20 23:10:36 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> On pc Debian x86-64 with 4.1 sources updated yesterday, I don't reproduce
> this.

Can you ascertain that the text is attributed as English (UK)?

> 
> On which env are you?

Windows HP 64bit.

> Do you reproduce after having renamed your LO directory profile? (see
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile)

Huh? I don't get you.

FYI,
* "deliberates" is recognised as correct on English (US).
* "deliberate" is recognised as correct on English (UK), but not "deliberates".
I wonder if the English (UK) dictionary takes "deliberate" as an adjective, thus should not have an "s".
Comment 3 Julien Nabet 2014-01-31 12:05:08 UTC
Kumāra: I tried with English US (default language). Could you give it a try?

About LibreOffice profile, it contains all the customizations, extensions, etc.
Sometimes it can contains remnants problems of older versions or problems due to a old/buggy extension. So if you rename the LibreOffice directory profile, LibreOffice will create a brand new directory profile at the next start.
Comment 4 Kumāra 2014-02-01 03:29:10 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)
> Kumāra: I tried with English US (default language). Could you give it a try?

I've already tried that. It's okay. That's not where the reported bug is.

The bug is in the English (UK). So, can you please check that? It's just a matter of changing the language of the sentence/word.
Comment 5 Julien Nabet 2014-02-01 08:24:51 UTC
Joren: would you have English UK installed to give it a try? I don't have it, I just have English US + French.
Comment 6 Kumāra 2014-02-01 09:16:58 UTC
I see. If you're willing, you should be able to (temporarily) add English UK by modifying the installation. No need to download anything new.
Comment 7 Jorendc 2014-02-01 12:25:27 UTC
I fail to reproduce this, tested using Mac OSX 10.9 with LibreOffice Version: 4.2.0.4 Build ID: 05dceb5d363845f2cf968344d7adab8dcfb2ba71

Local settings English (UK) and text also marked as English (UK).

Typing "deliberates" and some incorrect words, result in a red underlining of the incorrect words. Not "deliberates" (which looks correctly).

Typing "delliberates" result in a suggestion "deliberates". So I fail to reproduce this.
Comment 8 Kumāra 2014-02-02 06:31:25 UTC
Thanks. I see that you tested on 4.2, which I've not downloaded yet.

I got someone to test this bug on his computer with 4.1.3.2, and he says, "Same here, but it is recogniz(s)ed as a valid word by the English (US) spell-checker."

So, I'll see if the issue remains when I upgrade to 4.2.

Btw, since the issue is with only one word, I doubt if it has to do with problems in the user profile.
Comment 9 Peter Maunder 2014-02-02 09:36:42 UTC
I have the same problem with 4.2.0.4 .deb x86 en-GB langpak running Ubuntu 12.04. Using English (UK). I added deliberates as an additional word to beat the problem. I notice that my Firefox 27.0 as I am typing now also marks deliberates as a spelling error. Have added it to my local dictionary as well.

Peter
Comment 10 Kumāra 2014-02-02 10:37:54 UTC
Thanks for that, Peter. Yes, it's just a matter of adding the word for us. Still, it should be fixed.

Although Jorendc and Peter have different experiences with the same version on different platforms, I doubt that the issue is with the platform. My best guess is the English (UK) dictionary lack "deliberates", but Jorendc has earlier added the word in his user dictionary.
Comment 11 Julien Nabet 2014-02-02 16:28:00 UTC
Andras: I searched "deliberate" in Opengrok and noticed that it was declared on every English dictionary, except English UK one, see http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/search?q=deliberate&project=dictionaries&defs=&refs=&path=&hist=
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Comment 13 Marco A.G.Pinto 2016-05-19 01:14:06 UTC
I have added it to the en_GB forked by Marco Pinto (me):

19-MAY-2016
12837) deliberate (added and created a verb, removing the prefix forms)

It will appear in the monthly update.
Comment 14 Aron Budea 2016-05-19 01:29:06 UTC
This will hopefully find its way into LO soon, until then the monthly update Marco's referring to is for the English Dictionary extension he's maintaining here: http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/english-dictionaries/
Comment 15 Kumāra 2016-05-19 06:26:50 UTC
(In reply to Aron Budea from comment #14)
> This will hopefully find its way into LO soon, until then the monthly update
> Marco's referring to is for the English Dictionary extension he's
> maintaining here:
> http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/english-dictionaries/

"hopefully"? Does LO update it's English (UK) dictionary from this source?
Comment 16 Aron Budea 2016-05-19 06:38:19 UTC
(In reply to Kumāra from comment #15)
> "hopefully"? Does LO update it's English (UK) dictionary from this source?

Currently it's using old English dictionaries that were not touched for years, but the plan is to use the dictionary that was picked up and is actively maintained by Marco Pinto.
Comment 17 Kumāra 2016-05-19 08:33:36 UTC
(In reply to Aron Budea from comment #16)
> (In reply to Kumāra from comment #15)
> > "hopefully"? Does LO update it's English (UK) dictionary from this source?
> 
> Currently it's using old English dictionaries that were not touched for
> years, but the plan is to use the dictionary that was picked up and is
> actively maintained by Marco Pinto.

OK. That sounds better. Then shouldn't a bug report be created saying "LO English dictionaries need updating" and suggest Marco Pinto's dictionary?

Btw, seems wrong to mark this as NOTOURBUG. Perhaps with the new bug report we can mark this is MOVED.
Comment 18 Aron Budea 2016-05-19 22:12:49 UTC
(In reply to Kumāra from comment #17)
> OK. That sounds better. Then shouldn't a bug report be created saying "LO
> English dictionaries need updating" and suggest Marco Pinto's dictionary?

You're right, and in fact there is one, bug 97393.

> Btw, seems wrong to mark this as NOTOURBUG. Perhaps with the new bug report
> we can mark this is MOVED.

NOTOURBUG means it's not in LibreOffice itself. While dictionaries come bundled with LO, they're maintained independently by others, which is logical since dictionaries can be, and are used in different products.

What the LO team can do is choose between different available dictionaries (if there are more, or any), and update the bundled one when the maintainer issues updates.