Bug 75395 - Second sound hardware turned off makes pulseaudio hang
Summary: Second sound hardware turned off makes pulseaudio hang
Status: RESOLVED NOTOURBUG
Alias: None
Product: PulseAudio
Classification: Unclassified
Component: core (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: x86-64 (AMD64) Linux (All)
: medium blocker
Assignee: pulseaudio-bugs
QA Contact: pulseaudio-bugs
URL:
Whiteboard:
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2014-02-23 09:40 UTC by jan-ake.larsson
Modified: 2014-03-12 09:05 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

See Also:
i915 platform:
i915 features:


Attachments
alsa-info.sh output (31.90 KB, text/plain)
2014-02-26 06:05 UTC, jan-ake.larsson
Details
gdb-pulseaudio.log (161.85 KB, text/plain)
2014-02-27 07:05 UTC, jan-ake.larsson
Details
xrandr--verbose.txt (7.10 KB, text/plain)
2014-02-27 07:08 UTC, jan-ake.larsson
Details
gdb-pulseaudio-2.log (146.71 KB, text/plain)
2014-03-05 08:07 UTC, jan-ake.larsson
Details

Description jan-ake.larsson 2014-02-23 09:40:01 UTC
Hi, I have a dual display card setup on a hp tm2 laptop, Ubuntu linux. There is both a discrete radeon graphics card and an integrated intel card. If I use vgaswitcheroo to turn the radeon card OFF (to save battery), then pulseaudio hangs on the next sound played. This happens every time. Solutions for me: a) have the card on, or b) remove pulseaudio from the system. 

Pulseaudio hangs the system HARD. Let me know what logs you need, if any. Or if I possibly can change the configuration to make it work.
Comment 1 Raymond 2014-02-26 01:31:47 UTC
post output of alsa-info.sh

does it help if you switch the default sink back to analog first before you switch off HDMI ?

i.e. pulseaudio cannot get card removal udev event
Comment 2 jan-ake.larsson 2014-02-26 06:05:44 UTC
Created attachment 94749 [details]
alsa-info.sh output
Comment 3 jan-ake.larsson 2014-02-26 06:17:55 UTC
No difference in behaviour. The card seems to be present, still. One comment: it seems that it is not the whole system that hangs, just the program that plays the sound. If this is the session manager, I can't do anything anymore. And pulseaudio itself hangs. Pulseaudio doesn't even react to being killed after that.
Comment 4 Tanu Kaskinen 2014-02-26 07:36:07 UTC
Can you check with gdb where pulseaudio is hanging?
Comment 5 Raymond 2014-02-26 14:18:11 UTC
[    9.743743] HDMI: ELD buf size is 0, force 128
[    9.743760] HDMI: invalid ELD data byte 0

it seem that graphic driver cannot pass valid ELD to audio driver 

post output of 

xrandr --verbose

did you find your HDMI TV model in system log when drm parse EDID of your HDMI tv/monitor ?
Comment 6 jan-ake.larsson 2014-02-27 07:05:58 UTC
Created attachment 94800 [details]
gdb-pulseaudio.log
Comment 7 jan-ake.larsson 2014-02-27 07:08:46 UTC
Created attachment 94801 [details]
xrandr--verbose.txt
Comment 8 jan-ake.larsson 2014-02-27 07:12:21 UTC
I noticed that the sound-playing program hangs for quite some time, but then recovers and does play the sound. 

However, pulseaudio is completely non-responsive after this has happened. No reaction whatsoever, even to kill commands. I even had to cut and paste gdb output, my typescript session never wrote the last buffer to disk.
Comment 9 jan-ake.larsson 2014-02-27 07:14:09 UTC
I seem to remember that the monitor model is correct in the screen config when I connect an external monitor. Does that answer your question?
Comment 10 Raymond 2014-02-27 12:35:02 UTC
HDMI-1-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

and graphic driver does not show  audio is supported 




hdmi is plugged but no valid ELD

state.Generic {
	control.1 {
		iface CARD
		name 'HDMI/DP,pcm=3 Jack'
		value true
		comment {
			access read
			type BOOLEAN
			count 1
		}
	}


	control.6 {
		iface PCM
		device 3
		name ELD
		value ''
		comment {
			access 'read volatile'
			type BYTES
			count 0
		}
	}
Comment 11 Raymond 2014-02-27 12:40:37 UTC
LVDS1 

EDID: 
		00ffffffffffff004ca3414d00000000
		00120103801a10780a87f594574f8c27
		27505400000001010101010101010101
		010101010101121b0049502036301030
		130005a3100000190000000f00000000
		00000000002387026400000000fe0053
		414d53554e470a2020202020000000fe
		00313231415430392d4830310a20001e

seem not your hdmi monitor as no audio supported

Manufacturer: SEC Model 4d41 Serial Number 0
Made week 0 of 2008
EDID version: 1.3
Digital display
Maximum image size: 26 cm x 16 cm
Gamma: 2.20
Supported color formats: RGB 4:4:4, YCrCb 4:2:2
First detailed timing is preferred timing
Established timings supported:
Standard timings supported:
Detailed mode: Clock 69.300 MHz, 261 mm x 163 mm
               1280 1296 1344 1353 hborder 0
                800  801  804  854 vborder 0
               -hsync -vsync 
Manufacturer-specified data, tag 15
ASCII string: SAMSUNG
ASCII string: 121AT09
Checksum: 0x1e (valid)
Comment 12 jan-ake.larsson 2014-02-27 12:48:22 UTC
Sorry if I seem slow. The card is OFF, no HDMI monitor attached. This is the interesting case, no?
Comment 13 jan-ake.larsson 2014-02-27 13:16:40 UTC
I guess that would be the built-in screen in the laptop, then? This has no audio. There are built-in speakers in the laptop.
Comment 14 Raymond 2014-02-27 15:51:43 UTC
http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-lib.git;a=blob;f=include/control.h;hb=HEAD

TLV_DB_GAIN_MUTE	-9999999

it is strange that the virtual master playback volume has min dB -99999.99 but dB of slaves (e.g. headphone and speaker only have -95.25dB)

pulseaudio min_dB=-100146 which is even less than  SND_CTL_TLV_DB_GAIN_MUTE        

D: [pulseaudio] alsa-mixer.c: Removing path 'analog-output' as it is a subset of 'analog-output-speaker'.
D: [pulseaudio] alsa-mixer.c: Available mixer paths (after tidying):
D: [pulseaudio] alsa-mixer.c: Path Set 0x80e19b8, direction=1
D: [pulseaudio] alsa-mixer.c: Path analog-output-speaker (Speakers), direction=1, priority=100, probed=yes, supported=yes, has_mute=yes, has_volume=yes, has_dB=yes, min_volume=0, max_volume=127, min_dB=-100146, max_dB=0


MID {
	control.1 {
		iface MIXER
		name 'Headphone Playback Volume'
		value.0 127
		value.1 127
		comment {
			access 'read write'
			type INTEGER
			count 2
			range '0 - 127'
			dbmin -9525
			dbmax 0
			dbvalue.0 0
			dbvalue.1 0
		}
	}


	control.3 {
		iface MIXER
		name 'Speaker Playback Volume'
		value.0 0
		value.1 0
		comment {
			access 'read write'
			type INTEGER
			count 2
			range '0 - 127'
			dbmin -9525
			dbmax 0
			dbvalue.0 -9525
			dbvalue.1 -9525
		}
	}

	

		
	control.15 {
		iface MIXER
		name 'Master Playback Volume'
		value 0
		comment {
			access 'read write'
			type INTEGER
			count 1
			range '0 - 127'
			dbmin -9999999
			dbmax 0
			dbvalue.0 -9999999
		}
Comment 16 Raymond 2014-03-01 01:46:18 UTC
is this normal when you turn off one of the slaves of the combine-sine as you use combine-sink ?

is it impossible for module-switch-on-port-available to switch from combin-sink to the still available slave ?
Comment 17 jan-ake.larsson 2014-03-01 09:22:57 UTC
Sequence:

-Check status of hardware in pavucontrol:
--Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series]: Analog stereoduplex
--Built-in audio: Anaolg stereoduplex
-Exit pavucontrol
-Turn off hardware
-Start pavucontrol
-It waits for pulseaudio forever

Reboot

-Turn discrete card off in pavucontrol:
--Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series]: Off
--Built-in audio: Anaolg stereoduplex
-Exit pavucontrol
-Turn off hardware
-Start pavucontrol
-Seems to work

Note that even in the later case, sound-playing programs hang for quite some time before playing the sound, and pulseaudio itself becomes [defunct] if killed, and won't respawn.
Comment 18 Raymond 2014-03-01 13:49:10 UTC
[    9.678269] [drm] Connector 1:
[    9.678272] [drm]   HDMI-A-1
[    9.678275] [drm]   HPD1


did the system log show the graphic driver got your HDMI monitor 's EDID before snd-hda-Intel was loaded  ?
Comment 19 Raymond 2014-03-02 02:48:13 UTC
--Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series]: Analog stereoduplex

your HDMI support playback only , not duplex (no cpature)

did you not remove module-combine-sink from default.pa ?


APLAY

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: MID [HDA Intel MID], device 0: 92HD81B1X5 Analog [92HD81B1X5 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

ARECORD

**** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
card 0: MID [HDA Intel MID], device 0: 92HD81B1X5 Analog [92HD81B1X5 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
Comment 20 jan-ake.larsson 2014-03-02 11:46:28 UTC
The two choices I have in pavucontrol is "Analog stereoduplex" and "Off"

No I did not remove module-combine-sink from default.pa, it is not present in any file in /etc/pulse.
Comment 21 Raymond 2014-03-02 12:47:28 UTC
D: [pulseaudio] module-gconf.c: Loading module 'module-combine' with args '' due to GConf configuration.
W: [pulseaudio] module.c: [1mmodule-combine is deprecated: Please use module-combine-sink instead of module-combine![0m
W: [pulseaudio] module-combine.c: [1mWe will now load module-combine-sink. Please make sure to remove module-combine from your configuration.[0m
D: [pulseaudio] core-subscribe.c: Dropped redundant event due to change event.
I: [pulseaudio] module-device-restore.c: Restoring mute state for sink combined.
I: [pulseaudio] sink.c: Created sink 2 "combined" with sample spec s16le 2 kan. 44100 Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
I: [pulseaudio] sink.c:     device.class = "filter"
I: [pulseaudio] sink.c:     device.description = "Simultaneous Output"
I: [pulseaudio] sink.c:     device.icon_name = "audio-card"



I: [pulseaudio] source.c: Created source 3 "combined.monitor" with sample spec s16le 2 kan. 44100 Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
I: [pulseaudio] source.c:     device.description = "Monitor of Simultaneous Output"
I: [pulseaudio] source.c:     device.class = "monitor"
I: [pulseaudio] source.c:     device.icon_name = "audio-input-microphone"


: [pulseaudio] module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink combined becomes busy, resuming.
D: [pulseaudio] sink.c: Suspend cause of sink combined is 0x0000, resuming
D: [pulseaudio] module-stream-restore.c: Not restoring device for stream sink-input-by-media-role:filter, because already set to 'alsa_output.pci-0000_01_00.1.hdmi-stereo'.
D: [pulseaudio] module-intended-roles.c: Not setting device for stream Simultaneous output on Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series] Digital Stereo (HDMI), because already set.
Comment 22 Tanu Kaskinen 2014-03-03 08:41:44 UTC
The combine sink is being loaded by module-gconf, which is controlled by paprefs.
Comment 23 jan-ake.larsson 2014-03-03 08:46:07 UTC
Yes, I did understand that, eventually. I turned that off this morning and now I have "Stereo output" or whatever, and "Off" to choose from. While I doubt this has any effect on the bug, I'll redo the test tonight, or when I get the time.
Comment 24 jan-ake.larsson 2014-03-05 08:07:20 UTC
Created attachment 95143 [details]
gdb-pulseaudio-2.log
Comment 25 jan-ake.larsson 2014-03-05 08:29:15 UTC
Appears to fix the issue. No freeze, no crash. Thanks, guys.

Complicated, this: Dual cards. Turn one off. Play a sound. Pulseaudio freezes. Turns out it is a configuration error: The combined sink cannot handle removing hardware, if I understand this correctly.

I did already check for /etc, ~/.pulse and dconf mis-configuration. Repeatedly. For a long time, removing .pulse seemed to fix the issue for the next login. But at the time I had all sorts of problems even booting the machine (a race condition in the two graphics drivers, which is gone now). I didn't think to look for gconf mis-configuration. 

Besides, I wouldn't have known to remove combine-sink, it was not obvious to me this would have any effect, even when I got the advice from you.

Will you write this as user error, or will you try to fix the issue? I mean, it is still there, because I see this as a workaround.

Anyhow, I can use the system now, which is great.
Comment 26 Tanu Kaskinen 2014-03-07 11:50:09 UTC
(In reply to comment #25)
> Appears to fix the issue. No freeze, no crash. Thanks, guys.
> 
> Complicated, this: Dual cards. Turn one off. Play a sound. Pulseaudio
> freezes. Turns out it is a configuration error: The combined sink cannot
> handle removing hardware, if I understand this correctly.

That's not correct - module-combine-sink does handle removing hardware (I just verified this myself - works fine).

This sounds like a sound card driver bug that is somehow triggered by module-combine-sink. When I asked to check with gdb where pulseaudio is hanging, I meant getting a backtrace, which would then probably show that it's some alsa call that is hung.

(Sorry for not being more responsive, I don't have much time for engaging with bug reports.)
Comment 27 jan-ake.larsson 2014-03-07 15:11:42 UTC
Yes, I would have provided a backtrace, but it seems pulseaudio does not react to SIGINT. Nor to SIGKILL. I'll try again during the weekend, but don't hold your breath.
Comment 28 jan-ake.larsson 2014-03-07 15:12:38 UTC
Does not respond to SIGINT when it has hung, I mean.
Comment 29 Tanu Kaskinen 2014-03-07 15:15:12 UTC
I wonder if attaching to the hung process from outside (with gdb -p `pidof pulseaudio`) would work better?
Comment 30 jan-ake.larsson 2014-03-07 15:17:08 UTC
Good point, I'll try that. 

And for what it's worth, I'm completely happy with the responsiveness of the bug tracking here.
Comment 31 jan-ake.larsson 2014-03-09 21:34:33 UTC
Nope, no response. Loads symbols, and reports three LWP items. Then completely unresponsive, debugger hung too.
Comment 32 Tanu Kaskinen 2014-03-11 14:21:49 UTC
Do you mind if I close this bug with the assumption that this is a bug in the kernel driver of the sound card?
Comment 33 jan-ake.larsson 2014-03-12 08:49:36 UTC
Well, no, because my system is now usable (but the sound indicator is still missing, haven't found how to re-enable that).

On the other hand, perhaps I should file a bug report on the driver. Any advice on that?
Comment 34 Tanu Kaskinen 2014-03-12 09:05:37 UTC
You can send mail to the alsa-devel mailing list. Attach or link to the alsa-info.sh output in your bug report.

I'm closing this bug now.


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