Bug 8145 - Hebrew characters VAV, FINAL NUN, and YUD in Sans should be similar
Summary: Hebrew characters VAV, FINAL NUN, and YUD in Sans should be similar
Alias: None
Product: DejaVu
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Sans (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: x86 (IA32) Linux (All)
: high normal
Assignee: nocturnaldreamer
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Reported: 2006-09-06 05:39 UTC by Dov Grobgeld
Modified: 2007-01-03 10:22 UTC (History)
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Description Dov Grobgeld 2006-09-06 05:39:21 UTC
In the Sans font, the Hebrew characters VAV (U+05D5), and FINAL NUN (U+05DF)
have a "roof" (short vertical bar) on top, wheras YUD (U+05D9) does not. I think
that the font looks more consistant if these glyphs all have the same look on
the top. E.g. in Arial and Nachlieli CLM, none of these characters have roofs. I
think that this approach that should be used in DejaVu sans as well, i.e. no
roof, but just a simple vertical bar. Just like YUD, but down to the base line
for VAV, and further down for FINAL NUN.

Note that if this change is accepted, then there are some Yiddish ligature
characters that should be changed as well for consistancy.

Everything is IMHO, of course...
Comment 1 nocturnaldreamer 2006-09-25 05:22:20 UTC
I looked at other fonts on my system and you are right, I'll take care of that
(I'll just add the roof to YUD). Thx for reporting!
Comment 2 Dov Grobgeld 2006-09-25 05:29:11 UTC
My suggestion was actually to get rid of the roof for VAV and FINAL NUN as
well... Perhaps we should have some more feedback on this.
Comment 3 nocturnaldreamer 2006-09-25 05:45:40 UTC
Well I just thought it would be the easiest solution just to adjust YUD. Most
fonts I have installed have this roof (such as Levenim or Tahoma, which has a
similiar style to DejaVu).
Comment 4 Dov Grobgeld 2006-09-25 06:27:24 UTC
I had a look again comparing the following five fonts:

   DejaVu Sans

and imo the Hebrew glyphs of DejaVu are much more similar to Nachlieli and
Arial, than to Tahoma and Levinim. Neither Nachlieli and Arial have a roof for
any of these three characters, so I feel that neither should DejaVu.
Comment 5 Dov Grobgeld 2007-01-03 10:11:06 UTC
Any progress on this? Should I provide a patch?
Comment 6 nocturnaldreamer 2007-01-03 10:22:29 UTC
Sorry, I forgot to close the bug. I have already made the suggested changes,
they are included in the recent version.

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