Bug 98487 - Request: mesa-maintainers mailing list
Summary: Request: mesa-maintainers mailing list
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: freedesktop.org
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Mailing lists (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: Other All
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Assignee: fd.o Admin Massive
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Reported: 2016-10-28 21:13 UTC by Emil Velikov
Modified: 2016-12-05 18:12 UTC (History)
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Description Emil Velikov 2016-10-28 21:13:21 UTC
The volume over at mesa-dev@ is nearly impossible to parse through by maintainers.

At the same time, developers would appreciate the disto maintainers' input. Sadly those requests blend with the rest and go unnoticed.

The alternative(s) would be to poke the 5-10 individuals. Or the more annoyingly - try and retroactively address/fix things (if possible) after things are released.

I'm thinking about mesa-maintainers@ although feel free to pick any anything else alike.
Comment 1 Stefan Dirsch 2016-11-02 10:11:03 UTC
I believe we should add some more maintainers here first.
Comment 2 Emil Velikov 2016-11-02 12:26:35 UTC
Good idea Stefan. Adding a few that come to mind.

Gents, please voice your input for/against the idea, and don't be shy to add/drop fellow maintainers as applicable.

Some ideas of what might be covered on the list:
 - Breaking ABI
 - Build/runtime dependencies and configure switches - adding/removing 
 - Changing configure defaults --enable-glx-tls anyone?
 - Running/supporting old xserver (dri loaders) with new mesa (dri drivers) + vice-versa
Comment 3 Jonathan Gray 2016-11-02 12:58:43 UTC
The concept sounds great.  I rarely get a chance to catch up on mesa-dev.  It would be a public list with public archives?  I find it useful to point people who aren't subscribed to discussions from time to time.

I imagine the people involved in supporting the scons and android build infrastructure might be interested in such a list as well.
Comment 4 Stefan Dirsch 2016-11-02 13:03:27 UTC
Question is, whether upstream developers are really interested in getting input by downstream. My experience is, that upstream is not. And being downstream you need to follow more-or-less blindly upstream or you're in deep trouble later.
There may exist exceptions, but I'm not sure whether Mesa is one of these projects. ;-)
Comment 5 Emil Velikov 2016-11-02 13:43:08 UTC
AFAICT that's not the case for mesa and the graphics stack overall. Sure there will be times where upstream says NO, but then we provide explanation why and/or alternatives.
Comment 6 Andreas Boll 2016-11-07 12:38:12 UTC
This new mailing list sounds good to me.

Maybe we could discuss on release schedules too. As a downstream maintainer of Mesa it would be nice to know if we have to cherry-pick fixes manually or if it's enough to wait for the next stable release. Currently only major releases have a schedule but not the stable ones. Although there used to be a biweekly schedule for the stable releases in the past.
Comment 7 Igor Gnatenko 2016-11-07 12:59:56 UTC
I'm fully in!

Always I have to check which features / options appear in new release. If this will be send by upstream / someone who has more time -- I would be happy.
Comment 8 Jean-Sébastien Pédron 2016-11-11 07:51:17 UTC
It's a great idea!

I agree following mesa-dev@ is difficult, given the amount of emails sent to it.
Comment 9 Max Staudt 2016-11-15 16:44:06 UTC
I'm interested in this as well. mesa-dev@ is indeed quite busy.
Comment 10 Emil Velikov 2016-12-05 18:11:25 UTC
Thanks for the confirmation gents. The list is setup now props to Daniel.

There's a [trivial] notice coming out in a second, so please subscribe and SHOUT if things don't look/work as expected.


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