The volume over at mesa-dev@ is nearly impossible to parse through by maintainers. At the same time, developers would appreciate the disto maintainers' input. Sadly those requests blend with the rest and go unnoticed. The alternative(s) would be to poke the 5-10 individuals. Or the more annoyingly - try and retroactively address/fix things (if possible) after things are released. I'm thinking about mesa-maintainers@ although feel free to pick any anything else alike.
I believe we should add some more maintainers here first.
Good idea Stefan. Adding a few that come to mind. Gents, please voice your input for/against the idea, and don't be shy to add/drop fellow maintainers as applicable. Some ideas of what might be covered on the list: - Breaking ABI - Build/runtime dependencies and configure switches - adding/removing - Changing configure defaults --enable-glx-tls anyone? - Running/supporting old xserver (dri loaders) with new mesa (dri drivers) + vice-versa
The concept sounds great. I rarely get a chance to catch up on mesa-dev. It would be a public list with public archives? I find it useful to point people who aren't subscribed to discussions from time to time. I imagine the people involved in supporting the scons and android build infrastructure might be interested in such a list as well.
Question is, whether upstream developers are really interested in getting input by downstream. My experience is, that upstream is not. And being downstream you need to follow more-or-less blindly upstream or you're in deep trouble later. There may exist exceptions, but I'm not sure whether Mesa is one of these projects. ;-)
AFAICT that's not the case for mesa and the graphics stack overall. Sure there will be times where upstream says NO, but then we provide explanation why and/or alternatives.
This new mailing list sounds good to me. Maybe we could discuss on release schedules too. As a downstream maintainer of Mesa it would be nice to know if we have to cherry-pick fixes manually or if it's enough to wait for the next stable release. Currently only major releases have a schedule but not the stable ones. Although there used to be a biweekly schedule for the stable releases in the past.
I'm fully in! Always I have to check which features / options appear in new release. If this will be send by upstream / someone who has more time -- I would be happy.
It's a great idea! I agree following mesa-dev@ is difficult, given the amount of emails sent to it.
I'm interested in this as well. mesa-dev@ is indeed quite busy.
Thanks for the confirmation gents. The list is setup now props to Daniel. There's a [trivial] notice coming out in a second, so please subscribe and SHOUT if things don't look/work as expected.
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