Bug 30679 - [RADEON:KMS:DDX] KDE editor sluggish from f8fb9312d791af1f77020e8c2d35bb30841ed9aa (font rendering related)
Summary: [RADEON:KMS:DDX] KDE editor sluggish from f8fb9312d791af1f77020e8c2d35bb30841...
Status: RESOLVED MOVED
Alias: None
Product: xorg
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Driver/Radeon (show other bugs)
Version: git
Hardware: All All
: medium normal
Assignee: xf86-video-ati maintainers
QA Contact: Xorg Project Team
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Keywords:
: 30785 32282 (view as bug list)
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2010-10-07 08:00 UTC by Damien Mir
Modified: 2019-11-19 07:30 UTC (History)
10 users (show)

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Attachments
Xorg.0.log with ddx-radeon-git (34.84 KB, text/plain)
2010-10-08 09:59 UTC, Damien Mir
no flags Details
oprofile CPU_CLK_UNHALTED sample counts per symbol (54.85 KB, text/plain)
2010-10-10 14:27 UTC, Karl Tomlinson
no flags Details
oprofile CPU_CLK_UNHALTED callgraph (gzip compressed) (95.92 KB, application/octet-stream)
2010-10-10 14:33 UTC, Karl Tomlinson
no flags Details
EXA: Avoid GPU memory readback for PolyGlyphBlt fallbacks. (1.60 KB, patch)
2011-03-25 04:09 UTC, Michel Dänzer
no flags Details | Splinter Review

Description Damien Mir 2010-10-07 08:00:25 UTC
Commit :
RADEONPrepareAccess_CS: fallback to DFS when pixmap is in VRAM
f8fb9312d791af1f77020e8c2d35bb30841ed9aa

introduces serious sluggishness with KDE4 editor components / apps.


For instance with Kate, switching opened files or scrolling file content is extremely sluggish and makes Xorg eat 80-90% CPU
Same behavior with Kwrite.

No other slowdowns noticed apart from the KDE editor component.
Comment 1 Karl Tomlinson 2010-10-07 15:08:29 UTC
Are you using bitmap fonts?
Or do you have antialiasing off for the fonts in use?

This is one case where the PrepareAccess path would be faster because it is write-only access.

Unfortunately, PrepareAccess doesn't know whether access will be write-only.

And this kind of write-only access is a bit different from what EXA normally considers write-only.  EXA normally only considers an operation write-only if a whole region will be written.  Here the glyphs are written but I assume the pixels in-between are not touched.
Comment 2 Damien Mir 2010-10-08 03:18:58 UTC
I use EFont / ETL bitmaps as editor fonts.
Using TTFs for instance default Monospace, it becomes much less noticeable althought not as smooth as before.
Comment 3 Michel Dänzer 2010-10-08 03:34:50 UTC
Please attach the full Xorg.0.log.
Comment 4 Damien Mir 2010-10-08 09:59:25 UTC
Created attachment 39290 [details]
Xorg.0.log with ddx-radeon-git

See attached Xorg.0.log.

Nothing relevant about this issue as far as I can see...
Comment 5 Karl Tomlinson 2010-10-10 14:23:21 UTC
I see what I assume is something similar when using bitmap fonts with Konsole.
(I'm not detecting any slowness with other fonts, even when not "Smooth"ed.)
xterm and emacs don't show any issues with bitmap fonts, so it seems that
Konsole is using a different path.
Comment 6 Karl Tomlinson 2010-10-10 14:27:44 UTC
Created attachment 39332 [details]
oprofile CPU_CLK_UNHALTED sample counts per symbol
Comment 7 Karl Tomlinson 2010-10-10 14:33:34 UTC
Created attachment 39333 [details]
oprofile CPU_CLK_UNHALTED callgraph (gzip compressed)

Most samples are in kernel space.
User space samples indicate many DownloadFromScreen calls induced by damagePolyText16.  I'm assuming the kernel space calls are also due to DFS.
Comment 8 Karl Tomlinson 2010-10-10 15:15:31 UTC
There is a reasonable amount of region work in the samples.

Given PolyText16 is used here, I wonder whether the DamagePendingRegion
is quite complex, which could make its intersection with CopyReg in
exaCopyDirty complex, leading to multiple DownloadFromScreen calls.

Option "EXAOptimizeMigration" "off" in the Device section seems to workaround
the issue.

Perhaps the (RegionNumRects(pValidDst) > 10) path or similar could also
be used when RegionNumRects(pending_damage) is large.

On the driver side, DFS could perhaps skip the GPU blit for small rectangles,
or maybe consider moving the BO to GTT.

The way to get best performance for this particular case I think would be to modify the EXA/driver ABI so that EXA can indicate to PrepareAccess (or equiv) that it only needs write access.
However, I suspect that would require significant auditing and perhaps refactoring of EXA and likely other DIX to know which operations are write-only.
Comment 9 ps 2010-10-12 05:02:50 UTC
*** Bug 30785 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 10 ps 2010-10-12 05:05:02 UTC
Option "EXAOptimizeMigration" "off" does not workaround the problems for me.
(main slugishness here is not in KDE but in combination of e16 & Eterm, but there are also other symptoms.)
Comment 11 Damien Mir 2010-10-26 08:35:41 UTC
I can confirm :

Option "EXAOptimizeMigration" "off"

doesn't workaround the problem.
It just makes the case issues somehow less sluggish, but doesn't make it smooth as it was before commit f8fb9312d791af1f77020e8c2d35bb30841ed9aa
Comment 12 Michel Dänzer 2010-12-10 02:39:07 UTC
*** Bug 32282 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 13 ken moffat 2010-12-13 15:27:28 UTC
A data point for the "breaks gimp perspective tool" issue originally reported as #32282 : that problem only applies on my radeon 7500, my 9200se is fine with 6.13.2.
Comment 14 Ignacio R. Morelle 2010-12-31 18:17:19 UTC
I have just made a rather odd discovery using current master HEAD DDX, latest Mesa from git master on Linux 2.6.37-rc8, X.org server 1.9.3 RC-2 from Debian experimental (1.9.2.902).

The bitmap font I prefer for Konsole is Terminus, and it comes in a few fixed sizes such as Regular 9, Regular & Bold 11, Regular & Bold 12. I used to run Konsole using Terminus Bold 11 until a few days ago, when I figured out that it messed up the TrueType fallback for characters not in Terminus' glyph set such as Japanese hiragana.

I now use Terminus Bold 12 instead, which seems to work with the aforementioned characters fine -- and this night I decided to give the latest DDX revision a try to see if the drm/radeon changes in Linux 2.6.37 could make a difference regarding this current bug. It turns out that X will use less than 10% CPU while idle [*], just like with Terminus Bold 11 with the DDX revision previous to commit f8fb9312d791af1f77020e8c2d35bb30841ed9aa "RADEONPrepareAccess_CS: fallback to DFS when pixmap is in VRAM". Performance drops again if I switch back to Terminus Bold 11, CPU usage sky-rocketing above 50%.

I can't perceive much difference between both font sizes other than line spacing. Perhaps this has something to do with this bug -- overlapping glyph regions maybe?

I'm not sure if this contributes anything to the possibility of fixing this bug, but I thought I'd mention just in case.

[*] "idle" here stands for a maximized Konsole window on a 1280x800 display with 'top' running on foreground in the active tab.
Comment 15 Michel Dänzer 2011-03-24 08:53:46 UTC
Does the patch from bug 35197 help?
Comment 16 Michel Dänzer 2011-03-25 04:09:37 UTC
Created attachment 44845 [details] [review]
EXA: Avoid GPU memory readback for PolyGlyphBlt fallbacks.

Karl pointed out the patch from the other bug wouldn't help as this hits a different path, so here's another patch for that you can try instead of or in addition to the other patch.
Comment 17 Damien Mir 2011-03-27 16:00:19 UTC
Both patches ( 44478 + 44845 ) doesn't help on that particular issue, there's no noticeable improvement as far as I see it.

Test env is Kate / Kwrite on KDE 4.4 with Fixed [EFont].
Comment 18 Martin Peres 2019-11-19 07:30:18 UTC
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